| 13 May 2024 |
|  DarkKronicle joined the room. | 23:17:11 |
 samrose | In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
I'm not sure I understand you correctly, but I don't think so — the flake in the lix-project/lix repo is not actually exactly the same derivation as the one the overlay exports Sorry for my being confusing. I was thinking about cases where I am using nix on non-nixos systems (crazy, I know), but realized the discussion about the module/overlay might be in the context of installing Lix in nixos? | 23:18:03 |
| samrose | (I use nixos for some projects, but also have many cases where I just use nix on other linux distros. I was experimenting with using Lix on non-nixos contexts.) | 23:20:20 |
 Qyriad | ahhh oops | 23:25:06 |
| Qyriad | the module is specific to NixOS, though you can use the overlay it exports from non-NixOS | 23:25:26 |
| Qyriad | but in general you can just use the lix installer on non-NixOS | 23:25:39 |
 DolceTriade | Can you have nix and Lix installed together or will they fight over the "nix" binary? | 23:30:12 |
| Qyriad | you'll just end up with two nixs in your path, depending on how you install. the bigger thing is that only one daemon will be in use, which is not a huge problem since right now they are compatible, but we wouldn't recommend having two Nix implementations installed at once unless you have a good reason to | 23:31:26 |
| samrose | In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
but in general you can just use the lix installer on non-NixOS I feel like many people might have the opinion that you'd be kinda crazy not to just use Nixos, and I actually agree. But I have some reasons to use just nix in some cases. And, I also don't mind testing, and even trying to help fix the non-nixos use cases in Lix too. I also do use flake registries, and nix profile install in some non-nixos cases (and it actually works surprisingly well). I can't foresee a reason to have nix and lix together on the same system. | 23:36:42 |
| Qyriad | there are plenty of reasons to use Nix on non-NixOS systems tbh | 23:41:07 |
| Qyriad | we very much support that use case | 23:41:13 |
| Qyriad | * there are plenty of reasons to use Nix on non-NixOS (Linux) systems tbh | 23:41:20 |
| Qyriad | it is, admittedly, less tested, but only because it's much harder to do testing for it | 23:41:36 |
| samrose | it's really nice to manage building projects local/ci, etc | 23:41:38 |
| Qyriad | yeah | 23:42:00 |
| Qyriad | hell, eza explicitly recommends that anyone developing on it use Nix to do so | 23:42:26 |
 hexa | cafkafk at it again | 23:42:52 |
| samrose | In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
there are plenty of reasons to use Nix on non-NixOS (Linux) systems tbh I wonder what some good approaches to testing this would be | 23:43:27 |
 fwam | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
cafkafk at it again hm? | 23:43:56 |
| hexa | she maintains eza | 23:44:04 |
| fwam | that i know | 23:44:08 |
| hexa | and has recently become a nixpkgs committer | 23:44:11 |
| Qyriad | oh asdkgl | 23:44:13 |
| fwam | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
and has recently become a nixpkgs committer "recently" | 23:44:18 |
| Qyriad | didn't realize that was her | 23:44:21 |
| hexa | In reply to @fwam:femdom.solutions
"recently" say what you want to say 🤷 | 23:44:44 |
| fwam | huh, she still follows me on github, interesting | 23:44:58 |
| Qyriad | In reply to@samrose:matrix.org
I wonder what some good approaches to testing this would be we've been wondering about this. honestly we were wondering if using the NixOS test driver to boot into NixOS, and then do the opposite of nixos-infect and neuter it from within | 23:45:04 |
| samrose | In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
I wonder what some good approaches to testing this would be It almost doesn't seem like it matters what distro nix is being used on, but more of if packages, build, install | 23:45:07 |
| Qyriad | the biggest difference between Lix on NixOS and non NixOS is how Lix is installed | 23:45:33 |
