| 14 May 2024 |
 raitobezarius | it seems like RFC146 is coming to a conclusion | 23:14:14 |
| raitobezarius | they will go into FCP soonish (?) | 23:14:22 |
 EsperLily [she/her] | In reply to @mjm:midna.dev
feels like they are hooking their "i don't like how nix works" angle on the forking, which feels very forced that whole article is weird. especially the grousing about nix store paths. it's like the author saw the nix store and instantly hated it, without even noticing that profiles give you back the familiar filesystem layout | 23:19:46 |
 mjm | yup | 23:20:05 |
| mjm | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 23:20:07 |
| EsperLily [she/her] | "you just have to trust these unreadable paths" no you trust the tree of symlinks that points into the store. The store paths themselves don't matter | 23:20:37 |
 samrose | It’s ironic because it feels like progress is being made in this fork. | 23:47:46 |
| 15 May 2024 |
 Lunaphied | In reply to @mjm:midna.dev
feels like they are hooking their "i don't like how nix works" angle on the forking, which feels very forced The comments are even more funny; they're all "nooooo why would you put the files in places with weird names, they were fine before" | 00:01:47 |
| Lunaphied | In reply to @esperlily:matrix.org
that whole article is weird. especially the grousing about nix store paths. it's like the author saw the nix store and instantly hated it, without even noticing that profiles give you back the familiar filesystem layout Well to be fair, it doesn't totally reconstruct things (like on NixOS your configs still have weird handling and such) but this didn't even specific to NixOS so ?? | 00:03:00 |
 @jade_:matrix.org | In reply to @esperlily:matrix.org
hmm, https://docs.lix.systems/manual/nightly/release-notes/rl-next.html is empty... known bug https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/issues/297 | 00:22:29 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
It’s ironic because it feels like progress is being made in this fork. yes, we do seem to be achieving quite progress by having a known and well-agreed-upon agenda and just going after the todo list | 00:24:03 |
|  Ludovico joined the room. | 00:54:57 |
 Skyler Grey | In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
It’s ironic because it feels like progress is being made in this fork. it's ironicer, because Aux decided to not fork CppNix because we're so excited about Lix -- meaning that Aux couldn't change the store paths if we wanted to | 01:01:26 |
| Skyler Grey | The whole article feels very ... under researched. It looks to me like they made it to say how great Gobo Linux is... well, I hope they enjoy Gobo Linux :) | 01:03:17 |
| samrose | In reply to @minion:auxolotl.org
The whole article feels very ... under researched. It looks to me like they made it to say how great Gobo Linux is... well, I hope they enjoy Gobo Linux :) The entire article and comments make me feel like I am reading a slashdot.org debate from 2004. | 01:18:51 |
| samrose | They didn't even tell us in the article what the forks are doing, despite asserting things about it in the headline. Imagine if they would have went to the trouble of actually talking to the people that are creating the forks. | 01:21:00 |
| Lunaphied | In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
The entire article and comments make me feel like I am reading a slashdot.org debate from 2004. Uh 2004? Try 2024, they really haven't changed heh | 01:34:39 |
 Qyriad | They still exist? | 01:35:07 |
| samrose | In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
They still exist? Don't go read it! | 01:35:38 |
| Lunaphied | Yeah it's literally always a waste of time lmao | 01:35:50 |
 Dusk | In reply to @minion:auxolotl.org
The whole article feels very ... under researched. It looks to me like they made it to say how great Gobo Linux is... well, I hope they enjoy Gobo Linux :) i like Gobo too but it's not a very active project | 02:03:13 |
| Dusk | In reply to @fomosapien:matrix.org
https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2024/05/14/nix_forked_but_over_politics/
I was expecting to see Lix xD this really feels like an opinion piece, despite not being labeled as such | 02:08:47 |
 @tc424:glasgow.social | The Reg has always basically been an IT tabloid - it has its uses, but in depth technical analysis is not exactly its strong suite! | 02:50:02 |
 jakehamilton | In reply to @fomosapien:matrix.org
https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2024/05/14/nix_forked_but_over_politics/
I was expecting to see Lix xD Happy to take the hit so Lix can just keep doing good stuff quietly lol | 03:32:01 |
 toastal-matrix-sucks | nix (Lix, like Nix) 2.90.0-beta.1-lixpre20240506-b6799ab got it | 04:26:48 |
| toastal-matrix-sucks | FAQs says Flakes stabilization is a priority. I saw an open issue about unifying Nixpkgs fetchers & Flake fetchers as there is a lot of re-implementation of fetching & Flakes can’t inputs can’t accept (by not having the API for) fetching from as many sources … or mirrors for that matter. Is this a part of Lix’s goal plans too? | 04:30:20 |
| toastal-matrix-sucks | …And does Lix’s Flake need pre-commit-hook as an input that everyone downstream has to fetch? | 04:34:47 |
| toastal-matrix-sucks | (can there be a devInputs??) | 04:35:11 |
| toastal-matrix-sucks | …Or is the idea to not prefer Flakes, but just make sure Flakes are stable? | 04:50:50 |
| toastal-matrix-sucks | * …Or is the idea to not prefer or improve Flakes, but just make sure Flakes are stable & usable? | 05:03:59 |
