| 31 Dec 2025 |
 K900 | That's still going to run off of Qualcomm's proprietary-as-hell stage 1 | 15:25:38 |
 alina arielle amelie🏳️⚧️🐾 | what? :D | 15:25:53 |
| K900 | Which they will never let you touch because their system is not designed for that | 15:26:08 |
| K900 | You don't need a license to run a LoRA network, you need a license to make hardware | 15:26:12 |
| alina arielle amelie🏳️⚧️🐾 | wehhh that's so mean | 15:26:26 |
| K900 | There's a giant chunk of early boot proprietary firmware that every Qualcomm device runs before it boots anything user specified | 15:26:38 |
 Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | ah | 15:26:40 |
| K900 | There's an entire EDK2 in there | 15:26:43 |
| K900 | It's extremely fun | 15:26:52 |
| alina arielle amelie🏳️⚧️🐾 | 👀 | 15:27:00 |
| K900 | (not) | 15:27:10 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | who even owns Qualcomm nowadays | 15:27:10 |
| alina arielle amelie🏳️⚧️🐾 | it does sound fun to poke at and reverse engineer tho | 15:27:19 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | what about reverse engineering that | 15:27:26 |
| K900 | No one | 15:27:27 |
| K900 | Qualcomm owns Qualcomm | 15:27:28 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | oh. you had the same idea 😭 | 15:27:35 |
| K900 | It's pretty well documented | 15:27:38 |
| K900 | It's also signed and non-replaceable | 15:27:49 |
| alina arielle amelie🏳️⚧️🐾 | i've been thinking about getting a lattice ecp5 risc-v fpga for analogue amateur radio control | 15:28:17 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | well, there's
https://blog.quarkslab.com/analysis-of-qualcomm-secure-boot-chains.html
https://newandroidbook.com/Articles/aboot.html
| 15:28:21 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | we had this discussion about FPGAs like, a few days ago with K900 | 15:29:01 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | idk | 15:29:03 |
| K900 | There's official Qualcomm docs for most of it | 15:29:06 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | what was the name of the open firmware project | 15:29:08 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | for them | 15:29:10 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | like | 15:29:28 |
| K900 | I assume you mean toolchain, that would be yosys | 15:29:28 |
| K900 | There is no "firmware" really | 15:29:33 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | FPGAs we talked about | 15:29:34 |
