| 13 May 2024 |
 Qyriad | In reply to@samrose:matrix.org
I wonder what some good approaches to testing this would be we've been wondering about this. honestly we were wondering if using the NixOS test driver to boot into NixOS, and then do the opposite of nixos-infect and neuter it from within | 23:45:04 |
 samrose | In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
I wonder what some good approaches to testing this would be It almost doesn't seem like it matters what distro nix is being used on, but more of if packages, build, install | 23:45:07 |
| Qyriad | the biggest difference between Lix on NixOS and non NixOS is how Lix is installed | 23:45:33 |
 fwam | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
say what you want to say š¤· started in 2022, active since june 2023 | 23:45:43 |
| Qyriad | /run/current-system/sw/bin/nix vs /nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin/nix, namely | 23:45:43 |
 isabel | In reply to @fwam:femdom.solutions
"recently" I believe he means she's able to merge PRs | 23:45:50 |
| fwam | ah | 23:46:02 |
| isabel | not that she's made her first contributionĀ | 23:46:02 |
| samrose | In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
/run/current-system/sw/bin/nix vs /nix/var/nix/profiles/default/bin/nix, namely yes and in general you are dealing with "profiles", and path aliases | 23:47:06 |
| fwam | In reply to @isabel:isabelroses.com
I believe he means she's able to merge PRs fair | 23:48:05 |
| samrose | "nix flake apps" also work well on non-nixos systems, and I've been surprised that more people do not use them to run services and programs | 23:48:07 |
| fwam | can't say i like using nix flake outside of nixos, tbh | 23:48:36 |
| fwam | * can't say i like using nix flakes outside of nixos, tbh | 23:48:41 |
| Qyriad | nix run does kind of magically make arbitrarily-complex-packaged software trivially usable | 23:48:46 |
| samrose | and possibly could be a good way to write repeatable tests too | 23:48:56 |
| Qyriad | In reply to@fwam:femdom.solutions
can't say i like using nix flakes outside of nixos, tbh why? and we ask this as selves-admitted flakeā¦ well, not haters, but we're very "ugh flakes" | 23:49:26 |
 @sigmasquadron:matrix.org | In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
nix run does kind of magically make arbitrarily-complex-packaged software trivially usable purely functional magic | 23:49:46 |
| fwam | In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
why? and we ask this as selves-admitted flakeā¦ well, not haters, but we're very "ugh flakes" hm... purely because i didn't have a use for it, yet.
nothing nix-shell can't do for me, at least.
| 23:50:13 |
| Qyriad | (speaking of which, y'all know nix run works on non-flakes too right?) | 23:50:19 |
| samrose | I don't pretend to even know what the problems are with flakes, although I do believe you all that there are problems. I just went all in on them about 2 years ago, and just dealt with whatever comes along with that. | 23:51:16 |
| samrose | I did not know that nix run works on non-flakes | 23:51:36 |
| Qyriad | it's not exactly ergenomic, but it works on any arbitrary Nix-anything that evaluates to a derivation that sets mainProgram:
$ nix run --impure --expr 'let log2compdb = fetchGit "https://github.com/Qyriad/log2compdb"; in import log2compdb { }' . -- --version
log2compdb 0.2.5
| 23:52:42 |
 raitobezarius | In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
I don't pretend to even know what the problems are with flakes, although I do believe you all that there are problems. I just went all in on them about 2 years ago, and just dealt with whatever comes along with that. i recommend samueldr or jade's articles on flakes | 23:53:04 |
| Qyriad | all the nix3 commands work on non-flakes, this is just extremely shittily documented (so far) | 23:53:05 |
| raitobezarius | they're a really good quick presentation on the layering violations induced by flakes | 23:53:13 |
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| 23:53:17 |
| raitobezarius | * plus what qyriad just said | 23:53:19 |
| samrose | can you use nix run on non flakes because you can make an "installable" with nix, which then nix run can run? | 23:53:24 |
| Qyriad | an "installable" is actually not flake-specific, it's just flake by default (annoyingly) | 23:53:46 |
| samrose | yeah you can call a function that makes an installable in nix basically | 23:54:06 |
