| 19 Nov 2025 |
 Emma [it/its] | i dont mind it being the default - i tend to use that detail a lot myself | 18:15:56 |
 Katalin 🔪 | I want to just say "this repo needs nixpkgs (and whatever other dependencies), supply it yourself if you import this repo somewhere" | 18:17:09 |
| Katalin 🔪 | and only when building standalone, should it supply its own locked dependencies | 18:17:18 |
| Katalin 🔪 | essentially I want something like what meson does for wrap-files, where only the wrap files in the top-level project are considered | 18:18:19 |
 raitobezarius | In reply to @emma:rory.gay
also re the announcement, does that note about flakes in vNext mean the UX/commands will be changing, or will it be invisible to users? No change | 18:21:06 |
| raitobezarius | Except bug fixes | 18:21:16 |
 Zoe Z | On a clean checkout of 2.94.0 😦
57/144 lix:installcheck / functional-repl FAIL 1.38s exit status 1
| 21:22:39 |
 Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | Yeah, those are quite flakey | 22:14:40 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | Give me a couple of <del>weeks</del> months and maybe ill get those migrated to f2 as well | 22:15:42 |
| Zoe Z | It's failing because it's getting a different error message before it's hitting a filesystem boundary when searching for the flake. Is there a cleaner way to fix it than just checking for both messages? | 22:57:28 |
 Jules Lamur | Hi, is the Lix infra repo https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/web-services still available somewhere (or is it private)? It's mentionned on the wiki here https://wiki.lix.systems/books/lix-infrastructure-guide/page/machine-and-service-overview but it's a 404 as a guest. | 23:02:02 |
|  Ellie (The Fake One) joined the room. | 23:09:53 |
 K900 | The Lix infra repo is private, what are you looking for? | 23:17:37 |
| Jules Lamur | I was just curious :) I expected it to be public since it was mentionned there but it makes sense that it's private. | 23:19:16 |
| K900 | Stuff is slowly moving over to afnix infra which is public | 23:21:22 |
| K900 | https://git.afnix.fr/afnix/infra | 23:21:22 |
| Ellie (The Fake One) | oh wow lol does lix really not have that many build servers | 23:50:14 |
 just1602 | In reply to @rv32ima:envs.net
oh wow lol does lix really not have that many build servers If you have extras you can donate them to afnix! 😅 | 23:56:12 |
| Jules Lamur | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Stuff is slowly moving over to afnix infra which is public Ok now that's interresting :) That's the first time I hear about afnix. Digging its public matrix channels does not immediatly clarify (to me at least) what the goal of the association is or what the relationship exactly is between afnix and lix. Do you have any resources about it? Is lix independant from afnix? | 23:56:10 |
| just1602 | In reply to @jlamur:matrix.org
Ok now that's interresting :) That's the first time I hear about afnix. Digging its public matrix channels does not immediatly clarify (to me at least) what the goal of the association is or what the relationship exactly is between afnix and lix. Do you have any resources about it? Is lix independant from afnix? https://lix.systems/blog/2025-10-13-meta-lix-news/ | 23:57:00 |
| Jules Lamur | Raaah, I swear I browsed the news before asking but the title of this one didn't click when I read it. Thanks :) | 23:58:38 |
| Ellie (The Fake One) | i do in fact have extra, i have two 2nd gen xeon scalable bare-metal servers that need a home | 23:59:52 |
| 20 Nov 2025 |
| Ellie (The Fake One) | they're located in one of the many datacenters scattered across seattle. probably tukwila | 00:00:22 |
| Ellie (The Fake One) | i should prob pester my work about financially supporting lix too >_> maybe when [MATERIAL NON-PUBLIC INFORMATION] happens | 00:01:12 |
 Unhooked Spirits | I'm working on moving $WORK over to Nixlang via Lix myself. If we survive the next year, I've been promised we'll start sponsoring OSS that we use. | 00:29:48 |
 ToxicFrog | Neat! | 00:44:32 |
| ToxicFrog | I sometimes find myself thinking that I would like a job doing nix sysadmin stuff, and then I have to debug an inscrutable stack trace and start questioning that conclusion~ | 00:45:33 |
|  edef joined the room. | 01:32:43 |
| Ellie (The Fake One) | i've never actually had to debug an inscrutable stack trace for what it's worth, most errors when it comes to nix are trivial | 01:41:55 |
| Ellie (The Fake One) | i also work with zig code in production so maybe take what i'm saying with a giant grain of salt when i say that "nix is not the most convoluted and hard-to-use software" | 01:42:37 |
