| 6 Apr 2026 |
K900 | The plan is to use something like capnproto, yes | 16:16:17 |
K900 | Very likely literally capnproto | 16:16:18 |
piegames | capnproto is already in the codebase, although not used for any protocols yet | 17:27:49 |
piegames | In reply to @d-r-a-b:matrix.org
// This must remain 1.35 (Nix 2.18) forever in Lix, since the protocol has
// diverged in CppNix such that we cannot assign newer versions ourselves, the
// protocol is bad in design and implementation and Lix intends to replace it
// entirely.
not necessarily asking anyone to explain this to me, but if you happen to have a nice blog post somewhere discussing stuff around this topic, I'd love to read it. I'm assuming searching about the capn proto stuff is a reasonable proxy otherwise?
TL;DR: using monotonic version numbers is incompatible with two forks of the same protocol wanting to evolve in different directions | 17:29:44 |
raitobezarius | it's actually used for internal facing protocols in Lix | 20:39:32 |
raitobezarius | e.g. build-remote | 20:39:35 |
raitobezarius | it's not using for any public facing protocols | 20:39:39 |
raitobezarius | * it's not used for any public facing protocols | 22:34:06 |
| 7 Apr 2026 |
Psentee | TBH I'm running Harmonia 3 with Lix, and it generally works (I haven't looked into the protocol line and just went ahead with the upgrade when it showed up in nixpkgs). I'm running only harmonia-cache, not harmonia-daemon (which supposedly replaces the cppnix daemon) | 07:52:45 |
Psentee | * FWIW I'm running Harmonia 3 with Lix, and it generally works (I haven't looked into the protocol line and just went ahead with the upgrade when it showed up in nixpkgs). I'm running only harmonia-cache, not harmonia-daemon (which supposedly replaces the cppnix daemon) | 07:54:25 |
zoë (she/her) | this might just be me "holding it wrong," but it seems like the :u/:use repl command is broken in 1. | 08:31:39 |
zoë (she/her) | * this might just be me "holding it wrong," but it seems like the :u/:use repl command is broken in 2.95.1 | 08:31:47 |
zoë (she/her) | nix-repl> :u pkgs.hello
error: whitespace between function arguments or list elements is required here. Use --extra-deprecated-features tokens-no-whitespace to disable this error
at «string»:1:41:
1| "drv: (import <nixpkgs> {}).runCommand "shell") ""
| ^
2| R""({ buildInputs = [ drv ]; } ""
| 08:32:05 |
zoë (she/her) | * nix-repl> :u pkgs.hello
error: whitespace between function arguments or list elements is required here. Use --extra-deprecated-features tokens-no-whitespace to disable this error
at «string»:1:41:
1| "drv: (import <nixpkgs> {}).runCommand "shell") ""
| ^
2| R""({ buildInputs = [ drv ]; } ""
| 08:32:09 |
zoë (she/her) | just checked and it seems to work in 2.94.1 | 08:34:14 |
zoë (she/her) | i can't bisect lix right now (personal laptop is still dead, and i can't really do this on work hours ;-;), i'll just make an issue and people can tell me i'm dumb on forgejo | 08:35:27 |
zoë (she/her) | Redacted or Malformed Event | 08:36:11 |
zoë (she/her) | * oh wow just found #1176, which is basically the same thing but with :a, opened yesterday. what a coincidence | 08:36:30 |
zoë (she/her) | * this might just be me "holding it wrong" since i've never used this before, but it seems like the :u/:use repl command is broken in 2.95.1 | 08:46:46 |
zoë (she/her) | * i can't bisect lix right now (personal laptop is still dead, and i can't really do this on work hours ;-;), i'll just make an issue (edit: #1178) and people can tell me i'm dumb on forgejo | 08:47:51 |
kfiz | I'm trying to delete a misbehaving store-path.
➜ store nix store delete /nix/store/ld2j2mq254m77hwy22pyvrs861ap1374-glibc-locales-2.42-51 --ignore-liveness
this path will be fetched (0.00 MiB download, 222.42 MiB unpacked):
/nix/store/ld2j2mq254m77hwy22pyvrs861ap1374-glibc-locales-2.42-51
0 store paths deleted, 0.00 MiB freed
error: ignore-liveness is not supported via the Lix daemon; try running the command again with `--store local` and as the user that owns the Nix store (usually root)
yet https://docs.lix.systems/manual/lix/stable/command-ref/new-cli/nix3-store-delete.html#opt-ignore-liveness . So docs probably need an update
| 10:00:11 |
K900 | Well it does tell you what the fix is | 10:11:48 |
K900 | It's not supported specifically when going through the daemon protocol | 10:11:59 |
goldstein | cc raitobezarius my big “evaluating all the flakes” writeup is now up, including info about my setup & scripts I used https://goldstein.lol/posts/great-nix-flake-check/ | 15:55:25 |
raitobezarius | Super fascinating | 16:47:41 |
raitobezarius | Thank you for the mention and the article | 16:47:53 |
raitobezarius | Sona poki looks very interesting too | 16:47:59 |
raitobezarius | I wonder if we should go the Go proxy route to solve the GH rate limit issue | 16:48:11 |
goldstein | I found that if you want to evaluate something that requires fetching stuff (like flakes), it’s basically the only way | 16:48:41 |
goldstein | github didn’t really explicitly rate limit me when I used a token, but requests became very slow and I was hitting my generous 24 minute timeout all the time | 16:49:27 |