| 14 Jan 2026 |
 maralorn | Is it not IFD but still forbidden in nixpkgs? | 19:33:50 |
 K900 | Forbidden on Hydra yes | 19:36:38 |
| K900 | Also generally evaluating nixpkgs offline is something people rely on | 19:38:11 |
 Acid Bong | not ifd, cuz builtin fetchers' outputs aren't derivations (this is why import (fetchTarball ...) is a valid Nix code and why remote Nix code (Npins, Flakes, etc) works in general) | 19:46:43 |
| Acid Bong | where are you suggesting to store them and keep them pure? | 19:47:51 |
| maralorn | Any github repo? Well it would be reasonably pure when you pin the commit. But of course when you have a cache miss you need network, which I understand is not a good idea for nixpkgs. | 19:49:21 |
 teo (they/he) | Eval time fetchers also tend to be quite bad for eval performance | 19:57:20 |
| 13 May 2024 |
|  zrsk joined the room. | 13:37:30 |
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 mjm | lix is now in nixos-unstable, what's the best way to use it in a NixOS config? | 15:47:41 |
| K900 | nix.package = pkgs.lix | 15:47:54 |
| K900 | Probably | 15:47:58 |
| K900 | Or just keep using the module | 15:48:02 |
 puck | you can use nix.package = pkgs.lix; if you want; but using the overlay will guarantee more updates (tho less binary cache) | 15:48:44 |
| mjm | well, the module/overlay doesn't easily support using the one from nixpkgs | 15:48:44 |
| mjm | i do want more binary cache | 15:49:21 |
| mjm | yeah i guess i'll just do nix.package then | 15:50:43 |
 raitobezarius | to have binary cache and HEAD, we will probably need to track the channels and bolt a lix on there and rebuild with our own CI then push in our binary cache | 17:33:17 |
 Charles | What's lix using as its binary cache? Attic? | 17:34:36 |
|  Arian left the room. | 17:37:44 |
 @tc424:glasgow.social | Last I heard they were using garage as the back end, and think about attic | 17:39:11 |
| @tc424:glasgow.social | I don't know if that means they're just pushing directly into garage's s3 interface for the moment | 17:39:36 |
| @tc424:glasgow.social | * Last I heard they were using garage as the back end, and thinking about attic | 17:39:57 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @charles:computer.surgery
What's lix using as its binary cache? Attic? garage without attic | 17:41:16 |
| raitobezarius | it's homemade just nix push thingie | 17:41:24 |
| raitobezarius | and nix sign | 17:41:25 |
 Qyriad | yep | 17:44:26 |
| @tc424:glasgow.social | I've just given up on attic due to weird non-deterministic auth problems that nobody else seems to have experienced | 17:44:31 |
| @tc424:glasgow.social | Still half convinced I'm "holding it wrong" somehow | 17:44:49 |
