| 25 Nov 2025 |
 goldstein | Atemu if matrix doesn’t stop matrixing, you can ping me at root@goldstein.lol emali | 15:45:17 |
| goldstein | * Atemu if matrix doesn’t stop matrixing, you can ping me at root@goldstein.lol email | 15:45:22 |
 Atemu | Thanks lol ^^' | 15:45:54 |
 aloisw | Isn't that what https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/flake-compat is supposed to achieve with copySourceTreeToStore = false? | 17:07:33 |
| aloisw | Of course if the code in the flake itself assumes that it's in the store (which is a valid assumption under flakes) it will either copy anyway or fail. | 17:08:43 |
| Atemu | This was pointed out to me independently 20min ago; will have a look! | 17:11:19 |
 raitobezarius | In reply to @piegames:flausch.social
Do we have a command to easily check (and debug) remote builder connections? If not, can I request that as a feature? Already planned | 17:14:17 |
| raitobezarius | But the new machines format would make this greatly easier | 17:15:03 |
 piegames | I'm trying to run nix-instantiate --parse within a derivation builder (for Flaker purposes), and it fails with error: creating directory '/nix/var': Permission denied | 17:33:30 |
| piegames | this makes no sense to me. Why does nix want to create /nix/var directory? I didn't ask it to! I just want it to parse that silly file | 17:33:57 |
| aloisw | It does a bunch of filesystem accesses on startup, no matter what you end up actually using. | 17:37:22 |
| aloisw | https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/src/commit/3661f34abafaecc36c9141a70ad84295aa632723/lix/libstore/store-api.cc#L1407-L1411 because the daemon socket doesn't exist, it tries to recreate the local store I guess? | 17:40:57 |
|  @steeringwheelrules:tchncs.de left the room. | 18:12:46 |
| piegames | Any good options for me to run some simple nix evals in the build sandbox? | 18:49:53 |
 Yureka (she/her) | yeah you can just --store $PWD | 19:41:19 |
| Atemu | IIRC there's also a dummy store. It can't add files but parsing shouldn't need that? | 23:11:41 |
| raitobezarius | correct | 23:48:52 |
| 26 Nov 2025 |
|  Ellie (The Fake One) changed their display name from ellie to ellie (the cooler one). | 00:56:10 |
| Ellie (The Fake One) changed their display name from ellie (the cooler one) to ellie (the hot one). | 00:56:57 |
 sterni | I’m not sure this actually solves the problem unless —store dummy:// etc also change the state directory | 06:55:32 |
| sterni | nix-instantiate —parse (and often —eval) don’t need to write to the store and don’t need profiles but it tries to create those nonetheless, feels fixable to me definitely | 06:56:37 |
| sterni | piegames: the probably most portable way to work around it would be to set NIX_STATE_DIR to a temporary directory in the drv, you may also need to set NIX_STORE_DIR, not sure | 06:57:46 |
| sterni | you can find plenty of examples of this in nixpkgs | 06:57:57 |
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 ShalokShalom | Could the Cloudflare issue been prevented by a configuration setting, that would make the rebuild fail? | 10:08:24 |
 K900 | ...what | 10:15:02 |
| K900 | What "Cloudflare issue" | 10:15:06 |
 Arian | wrong chat maybe? :D | 10:18:36 |
 toonn | Maybe they mean "If Cloudflare used NixOS they wouldn't've made the mistake." | 10:19:47 |
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