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20 Jan 2026
@dolcetriade:matrix.orgDolceTriadeThe parts that were failing were part of a custom binary cache19:14:29
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusso a misbehaving binary cache perhaps?19:18:36
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusstill, we shouldn't crash because of that19:18:52
@dolcetriade:matrix.orgDolceTriadeYes, that seems likely.19:19:55
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusif we can get access to it and have a reproducer in a bug issue, we can look into that19:20:41
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswe would debug it via gdb and look into the state machine19:20:49
@dolcetriade:matrix.orgDolceTriadeWe're using attic as our binary cache and I guess we discovered that one of binary cache uploads failed. Dunno how to reproduce this. I can try to build a reproducer.19:22:20
@dolcetriade:matrix.orgDolceTriade* We're using attic as our binary cache and I guess we discovered that one of binary cache uploads failed. Dunno how to reproduce this. I can try to build a reproducer that simulates a similar situation19:22:36
@dolcetriade:matrix.orgDolceTriade* We're using attic as our binary cache and I guess we discovered that one of binary cache uploads failed. Dunno how to reproduce this. I can try to build a reproducer that simulates a similar situation. We have to pin to specific random versions for legacy reasons. :(19:22:54
21 Jan 2026
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinter

running into the same silly “writeTextFiles from my system build are taking longer than i expect to build,” where “longer than i expect” = like a second per drv… 🤨

can reliably ish repro at least… but still very weird

02:06:58
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinter *

running into the same silly “writeTextFiles from my system build are taking longer than i expect to build” again, where “longer than i expect” = like a second per drv… 🤨

can reliably ish repro at least… but still very weird

02:07:14
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinteram i going insane, or are NixOS system closures Just Like That02:07:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @winter:catgirl.cloud

running into the same silly “writeTextFiles from my system build are taking longer than i expect to build” again, where “longer than i expect” = like a second per drv… 🤨

can reliably ish repro at least… but still very weird

Sandbox setup time grows with respect to the number of derivations that you are building overall
06:32:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAs you have more derivations, forking takes more time even if the derivation is trivial to build06:33:20
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIt's on our radar to fix this06:33:28
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBecause it's impossible to build 1M of trivial drvs due to that06:33:38
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)btw, thank you so much for build-vm! nixos really plays well with Qemu08:36:03
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuslmk once you have one, i'm interested08:54:46
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)PXL_20260121_115557999.jpg
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11:56:17
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)Booting of the NixOS image straight from the internet11:57:44
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her) Like, the provided one on the website 11:57:53
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothoff-topic?12:01:38
@k900:0upti.meK900 How did you write it? 12:01:47
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)dd12:19:15
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)Can this be because of the stick?12:42:02
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)Like, a hardware error12:42:08
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her) Anyways offtopic 12:42:16
@antifuchs:asf.computerantifuchsthis is fascinating! is there a writeup of this somewhere / an issue? I'd love to understand that more.19:53:06
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThe wiki may talk about it around the concept of "zygote"21:01:10
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI think looking at docs on Android zygote might be the more efficient way to learn about the problem space21:01:46

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