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31 Jan 2026
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@axx:jaccu.seaxxSadly the sound/acoustics are terrible17:28:08
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)Redacted or Malformed Event18:08:34
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)Redacted or Malformed Event21:05:59
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her) K900I tried to send a video on !f7ANyFfiAJtbgM98Pk:katesiria.organd now my messages dont sent 21:06:20
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)welp21:06:21
@k900:0upti.meK900AFAICT you're not banned at least21:06:51
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (they/them)
In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
it is niche and an afterthought, the installables syntax in the new nix3 CLI is very tied to flakes, even though you could theoretically split them
I would very much like the installables and "runnables" concept to be extracted from flakes
21:06:56
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)can you see did u receive the message?21:07:17
@k900:0upti.meK900Yes21:07:36
1 Feb 2026
@lotte:chir.rsLotte (it/its)/Cinny (she/her) θΔ& @delroth getting 502s from git.lix.systems atm 07:08:05
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothfixing09:05:08
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothwe do have alerting for this now, it just happens that it broke in the middle of the night09:05:45
@522_:catgirl.cloud0x4fbb09 it/its ⛯✇ΘΔ
# nix flake check --all-systems
Do you want to allow configuration setting 'allow-import-from-derivation' to be set to 'false'?
This may allow the flake to gain root, see the nix.conf manual page (yes/no/No to all) 

... that last line isn't true for this specific setting, right? i assume it's done for all configuration settings, would it be practical to not warn about getting root for known-safe options? (still ask if the user wants it, but the warning about "this may allow the flake to gain root" isn't true for those settings.) (it is true for the trusted-substitutor that tried to add cachix, which i rejected)

12:08:46
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)
error:
       … while checking flake output 'nixosConfigurations'

       … while checking the NixOS configuration 'nixosConfigurations.tailstack'

       … while calling the 'head' builtin
         at /nix/store/syvzk0psc8m51z4024qr4i0kx9k14dqz-source/lib/attrsets.nix:1713:13:
         1712|           if length values == 1 || pred here (elemAt values 1) (head values) then
         1713|             head values
             |             ^
         1714|           else

       (stack trace truncated; use '--show-trace' to show the full trace)

       error: No device specified for mount point ‘/etc/ssh’.
13:39:02
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)??13:39:15
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)using impermance?13:39:20
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)and sops-nix13:39:40
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)ah13:44:53
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)fixed it13:44:54
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)somehow13:44:55
@antifuchs:asf.computerantifuchs hm, something referenced by my nix config (it's flake-based and I updated inputs) has started using a determinateNix option, and the backtrace I'm getting is extremely unhelpful, even with --show-trace. https://gist.github.com/antifuchs/37c6fd57d62e1867aeff12201377bbfb is that trace from the repl, I can't see anything useful in there, is there a different thing I could do to get more info? 16:17:48
@lillecarl:matrix.orglillecarlHow do you guys conveniently dogfood Lix development? If you replace system nix daemon and you break something badly enough and you want to revert for example. I can think of ways but I imagine someone has thought about it more than me 😄18:26:10
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathere is always single user mode18:36:33
@lillecarl:matrix.orglillecarl hexa: Yeah i guess just calling the old activationscript too. I realize never ever roll backwards 18:40:38
@vczf:matrix.orgvczf
In reply to @antifuchs:asf.computer
hm, something referenced by my nix config (it's flake-based and I updated inputs) has started using a determinateNix option, and the backtrace I'm getting is extremely unhelpful, even with --show-trace. https://gist.github.com/antifuchs/37c6fd57d62e1867aeff12201377bbfb is that trace from the repl, I can't see anything useful in there, is there a different thing I could do to get more info?

Possibly try a grep -rnFe ‘determinateNix’ or similar in /nix/store

Whatever nix code calling it must exist in the store somewhere.

18:47:22
@antifuchs:asf.computerantifuchsyeah, that tracks. and ooof18:47:49
@antifuchs:asf.computerantifuchs(grep's still running on my store, btw)19:25:16
@vczf:matrix.orgvczf
In reply to @antifuchs:asf.computer
(grep's still running on my store, btw)
grep -rnFe determinateNix /nix/store/*-source* might work better
19:38:59
@vczf:matrix.orgvczfNot at my computer right now though19:39:13

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