| 28 Jan 2026 |
 KFears (they/them) | It's hard to keep track of new channels though, yeah | 18:44:02 |
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| 29 Jan 2026 |
 llakala | In reply to @piegames:flausch.social
I mean npins is fairly feature complete by now and in need of a successor, so I'm interested in hearing your show-stoppers for using it as a (relatively) happy npins user, I find json to be a horrible experience | 00:08:30 |
| llakala | i think cli-driven is a lot worse than file-driven, and i'd prefer something that followed the flake concept of a source of truth and a lockfile | 00:09:29 |
| llakala | think npins.toml, npins.lock | 00:09:46 |
 Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | This! | 09:10:44 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | That's one thing flakes did right | 09:10:58 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | idk, I'll maybe just stick with flakes due to e.g. nix run | 09:11:29 |
 aloisw | nix run also works without flakes, using -f the same way as the other commands. | 09:12:03 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | ah | 09:14:52 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | How do I use config inside home manager which is inside nixos? | 10:18:59 |
 neobrain | Running off nixpks without a local clone is a bit awkward with that though, isn't it? | 10:20:12 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | I get like
error: The option home-manager.users.sofie.catppuccin' does not exist. Definition values: In /nix/store/2d7lnrfk6w9lqfmlirbl3ga9y3rp8k2x-source/modules/home/desktop/gnome/catppuccin/qt":
| 10:20:48 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | Even when it's defined | 10:20:59 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | But this works with a different host? | 10:21:19 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | Maybe because it has already deployed it before but idk | 10:21:32 |
| aloisw | nix run -f '<nixpkgs>'? | 10:27:17 |
| KFears (they/them) | Use osConfig instead of config | 10:42:21 |
| KFears (they/them) | If you want to access NixOS config from inside of HM scope | 10:42:37 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | thanks | 10:49:05 |
| neobrain | oh right, I forgot that's a thing if you use channels | 11:04:41 |
 delroth | not necessarily channels (which are pretty terrible), my nixos machines are configured to have the nixpkgs they're built from symlinked at /etc/nixpkgs and a nix.nixPath = [ "nixpkgs=/etc/nixpkgs" ]; | 12:27:23 |
 niko ⚡️ | I personally go through flake registry and inside registry pin nixpkgs to specific revision but yeah the symlinking approach makes you not reliant on flakes which some may consider desirable | 12:34:05 |
 Coca | Would it be fine to have to "sync" any edits to the source of truth as a separate action from evaluating the sources? The nice thing with flakes is that they can reflect the changes in flakes.nix without you needing to explicitly tell it to do so as the commands are built to handle it, and I'm not sure if not having that ability would make this worth it. | 13:48:34 |
| neobrain | TIL | 14:56:55 |
| neobrain | Am I wrong to assume that using the nix command CLI without flakes is rather niche and kind of an afterthought?
Maybe I'm just not used to it, but it seems like you really have to go out of your way (in a non-obvious manner) to use it like that | 14:59:01 |
| Coca | https://piegames.de/dumps/pinning-nixos-with-npins-revisited/ :v | 14:59:50 |
| delroth | it is niche and an afterthought, the installables syntax in the new nix3 CLI is very tied to flakes, even though you could theoretically split them | 15:00:33 |
| delroth | this channel has an over-representation of people that attempt not to use flakes, for various individual reasons | 15:00:58 |
| delroth | (over-representation compared to the average, not in absolute terms :p) | 15:01:19 |
