| 21 Nov 2025 |
 K900 | It was most of them like three-five years ago | 17:56:59 |
| K900 | Before big distro vendors started pushing for r11y | 17:57:06 |
 Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | or hundreds of nix patches | 17:57:16 |
| K900 | Ideally the patches would be integrated into upstreams | 17:57:30 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | ooo | 17:57:35 |
 522 it/its ⛯ΘΔ | reproducibility isn't too hard on an individual package level a lot of the time, it's just work if you want, say, the installation iso to be reproducible | 17:58:04 |
| 522 it/its ⛯ΘΔ | since that's a Lot Of Packages to build | 17:58:08 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | and aren't filesystems a pain to be reproducible? | 17:58:30 |
| K900 | Not particularly | 17:58:44 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | probably depends on the fa tho | 17:59:07 |
| K900 | Do you mean, like, creating filesystem images? | 18:00:08 |
| Sofie 🏳️⚧️ (she/her) | yea | 18:03:21 |
| K900 | Those are generally fairly reproducible | 18:08:15 |
| K900 | Though it depends on what exactly you're doing | 18:08:21 |
| K900 | But also those are usually not the problem | 18:08:26 |
|  isabel changed their profile picture. | 18:14:04 |
 raitobezarius | re: r11y, interestingly, things like the Darwin path length fixes did affect Linux stability: https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/issues/1044 and caused Steam fallouts (in very advanced usecases) | 18:33:30 |
| K900 | Wait what | 18:35:27 |
| K900 | I've missed the Steam fallouts I think? | 18:35:34 |
| raitobezarius | K900: try to run Steam from a nix-shell | 18:39:42 |
| raitobezarius | we had a steamwebhelper crash loop case on this | 18:39:57 |
| K900 | H u h | 18:41:11 |
| K900 | How does that even work | 18:41:17 |
| raitobezarius | I can get you more details in 2 hours or so | 18:41:52 |
|  jlc joined the room. | 18:51:21 |
| jlc | 👋 | 18:51:28 |
| jlc | joined as my friend Nora said this was a place to learn Nix/coding in general from lesbains who aren't gonna be condescending :) | 18:52:31 |
 Blastboom Strice | Waiit this place has a zulip chat too?? | 19:54:29 |
| Blastboom Strice | Woah | 19:54:31 |
| raitobezarius | yep | 19:54:56 |
