| 16 Feb 2025 |
 piegames | In reply to @charles:computer.surgery
In this particular case anyway. But yeah you'd need a string tag or something in the general case Yeah, this exactly. I'd probably prefer making it a more general sum type system | 16:50:33 |
 Charles | is there a name for the <nixpkgs> syntax? newer versions of the cppnix manual seem to call this "path lookup", but i don't see that term in the lix manual anywhere | 18:32:36 |
 antifuchs | Believe that’s just called a path, at least that’s what the nix manual calls them | 18:41:23 |
| antifuchs | From https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/language/values#type-path | 18:41:36 |
| Charles | your manual is too old | 18:41:45 |
| Charles | https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.25/language/constructs/lookup-path | 18:42:03 |
| antifuchs | Fine fine https://docs.lix.systems/manual/lix/stable/language/values.html#type-path | 18:42:39 |
| Charles | that doesn't give the construct a name | 18:42:59 |
| Charles | it just says you can use that syntax, but it doesn't give it a name | 18:43:19 |
| Charles | i'm looking for a name | 18:43:23 |
| antifuchs | Ah, for the syntax; got it | 18:43:38 |
| Charles | yeah | 18:43:44 |
| Charles | semantically paths and lookup paths behave the same way so for a type system they should probably both just belong to a single path type, but i think it would be useful to have a term for both actual paths and the angle bracket syntax | 18:44:20 |
| antifuchs | Hm, yeah, maybe something to put on the value’s meta info (: | 18:49:26 |
| Charles | relatedly, here's some half-baked thoughts on a system for doing type annotations in nix-the-language: https://hedgedoc.computer.surgery/s/59ni6v-oA# | 19:37:35 |
| Charles | if anyone has ideas for how to solve the problem mentioned with callPackage towards the end there i'd be interested in hearing it | 19:46:06 |
| Charles | basically, callPackage will add attributes if the thing you're callPackageing returns an attribute set, otherwise it won't bother | 19:47:01 |
| Charles | the type in the reference doesn't even indicate this behavior: https://nixos.org/manual/nixpkgs/unstable/#function-library-lib.customisation.callPackageWith | 21:27:59 |
 jyrama | I somehow managed to get my nix-env oom-killed while running comma. Not sure why comma even ran nix-env in the background. Anyone has pointers for gathering information on the process so the underlying problem could be investigated after I start reproducing it? | 21:38:28 |
| 17 Feb 2025 |
 522 | # nix flake update
warning: Ignoring the client-specified setting 'tarball-ttl', because it is a restricted setting and you are not a trusted user
warning: Ignoring the client-specified setting 'tarball-ttl', because it is a restricted setting and you are not a trusted user
any clue what would be causing this? nix run nixpkgs#nix -- flake update doesn't cause this, so this seems to be a lix specific thing?
# nix --version
nix (Lix, like Nix) 2.92.0
(installed using the lix module on a flakes system)
grepping through my dotfiles for tarball-ttl finds nothing, so i have no clue where it's actually picking that up from
| 02:52:47 |
| Charles | yeah i've been seeing this too, i suspect there's something inside lix that's setting this specifically for nix flake update to try to refresh tarballs | 03:24:40 |
| Charles | i don't think i've seen those warnings appear when doing any operation other than nix flake update | 03:25:03 |
| Charles | friendship ended with nixpkgs.lib.packagesFromDirectoryRecursive, now loadFromDirectoryRecursive and makeScopedPackagesFromDirectoryRecursive are my new best friends: https://gitlab.computer.surgery/charles/dotfiles/-/blob/main/nix/lib/fs.nix?ref_type=heads | 07:25:56 |
| Charles | i've just opened an issue about this since i didn't see an existing one: https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/issues/680 | 07:37:06 |
 julia | In reply to @charles:computer.surgery
yeah i've been seeing this too, i suspect there's something inside lix that's setting this specifically for nix flake update to try to refresh tarballs guessing it's this https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/src/commit/d745b28500c4cd9d865e219502e363efd82751f7/lix/nix/flake.cc#L121 | 10:14:24 |
|  Odd joined the room. | 11:58:51 |
 Arian | “Hmm I wonder why the lack of manpages in 2.26 wasn’t caught by tests” | 15:18:47 |
| Arian |
- apparently they disabled the test because it stopped working after the migration to meson instead of fixing the fact that there are no man pages
https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/12382#issuecomment-2661640562
| 15:19:29 |
| Arian | .-. | 15:19:36 |
|  Marcus changed their profile picture. | 21:38:25 |
