| 1 Dec 2025 |
 niko ⚡️ | At least I’d personally expect all functions to be auto-called, or none | 09:55:17 |
 piegames | In reply to @niko:nrab.lol
At least I’d personally expect all functions to be auto-called, or none Well that's already not the case unfortunately https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/src/branch/main/lix/libexpr/eval.cc#L1831 | 10:05:20 |
| niko ⚡️ | In reply to @piegames:flausch.social
Well that's already not the case unfortunately https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/src/branch/main/lix/libexpr/eval.cc#L1831 Oh I know, I’m very much not a fan of auto-calling in the first place, but even my bias aside it has a bunch of sharp edges besides e.g. the blatant bug with functors | 10:08:17 |
| piegames | Honestly auto-calling should be ripped out and replaced with some dedicated parametrized top-level entry point mechanism | 10:19:33 |
| piegames | And functors, sigh | 10:19:48 |
 helle (just a stray cat girl) | auto-calling is scary stuff imo | 10:28:24 |
| piegames | Unfortunately I'm a pretty big user of it :D | 11:09:11 |
| piegames | It's great when you're using Nix as a data pipeline scripting language | 11:09:30 |
 raitobezarius | nixpkgs and normal package uses a lot of autocalls as well | 11:32:14 |
| raitobezarius | but simple shallow autocalls usually | 11:32:22 |
| raitobezarius | it would make sense for flaker maybe to support measuring the depthness of the autocalls | 11:32:30 |
| raitobezarius | for non-flakes entrypoints i suppose | 11:32:35 |
| piegames | Can this be done with static analysis? | 11:33:36 |
| raitobezarius | i don't believe so | 11:33:44 |
| piegames | Can you give some examples? | 11:33:58 |
| raitobezarius | we must hook some reporting facility in lix that you can exploit | 11:33:53 |
| raitobezarius | old-style tests entrypoints | 11:34:08 |
| raitobezarius | in nixpkgs | 11:34:13 |
| piegames | Because without a standardized way to enumerate all entry points, finding usage through Flaker will be tricky | 11:34:26 |
| raitobezarius | nixos/tests/zfs.nix | 11:34:28 |
| raitobezarius | a ultra common pattern is | 11:34:32 |
| raitobezarius | { x ? a, y ? b, c ? d }: ... | 11:34:41 |
| raitobezarius | this gets autocalled all the time | 11:34:45 |
| raitobezarius | many default.nix starts with { pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> { } }: ... | 11:34:54 |
| piegames | I know that pattern, but where does that get autocalled? | 11:36:44 |
| piegames | I've seen it manually called at times and that's it | 11:36:54 |
| piegames | I haven't seen much autocalling entry points in the wild | 11:37:09 |
| raitobezarius | well | 11:44:43 |
| raitobezarius | if you do | 11:44:44 |
| raitobezarius | nix-build -A xyz | 11:44:46 |
