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12 Oct 2025
@stephen:crabsin.spacen3tcat and you'd get rid of &&/|| too or leave them in? 17:55:17
@aftix:matrix.orgaftixI wouldn't get rid of them, they wouldn't be there from the start (in a hypothetical new language)17:55:45
@stephen:crabsin.spacen3tcatI think I'm just gonna have to agree to disagree then17:57:20
@marie:marie.cologneMarie I'm still having problems with hydra, these same derivations are kind of cursed, I tried purging all of the existing builds, drvs, caches etc.
hydra-queue-runner[495420]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/4vynbsnad0s085fr78djvs68v86w22ji-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-binutils-wrapper-2.44.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[495420]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/jlblqdhw79iqnladg4g90xzpvyxk6yxl-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config-wrapper-0.29.2.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[495420]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/4vynbsnad0s085fr78djvs68v86w22ji-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-binutils-wrapper-2.44.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[495420]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/4vynbsnad0s085fr78djvs68v86w22ji-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-binutils-wrapper-2.44.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[495420]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/jlblqdhw79iqnladg4g90xzpvyxk6yxl-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config-wrapper-0.29.2.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[495420]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/jlblqdhw79iqnladg4g90xzpvyxk6yxl-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config-wrapper-0.29.2.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[25821]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/4vynbsnad0s085fr78djvs68v86w22ji-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-binutils-wrapper-2.44.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[25821]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/jlblqdhw79iqnladg4g90xzpvyxk6yxl-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config-wrapper-0.29.2.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[25821]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/4vynbsnad0s085fr78djvs68v86w22ji-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-binutils-wrapper-2.44.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[25821]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/4vynbsnad0s085fr78djvs68v86w22ji-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-binutils-wrapper-2.44.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[25821]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/jlblqdhw79iqnladg4g90xzpvyxk6yxl-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config-wrapper-0.29.2.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
hydra-queue-runner[25821]: possibly transient failure building ‘/nix/store/jlblqdhw79iqnladg4g90xzpvyxk6yxl-powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config-wrapper-0.29.2.drv’ on ‘ssh://root@gitlabber.weasel-gentoo.ts.net’: error: bad archive: input doesn't look like a Nix archive
I'm not sure how I should debug this further
I set up another hydra machine where all of this doesn't happen
19:27:55
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit sounds worth trying to rebuild lix and hydra with debug symbols19:33:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthen breaking with gdb at the point where it throws this exception19:33:43
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusand examining a bit the surrounding19:33:47
@donn:fossi-chat.orgdonn

hiya, since switching to lix this happens on some nix develop invocations:

bash: /tmp/nix-shell.7i8XCE: line 1179: syntax error near unexpected token `('
bash: /tmp/nix-shell.7i8XCE: line 1179: `die ()'

is this a known issue?

19:57:29
@donn:fossi-chat.orgdonn oh nvm i just aliased die to sudo shutdown -H now and forgot about it 20:00:53
@donn:fossi-chat.orgdonnsorry!20:01:06
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)
In reply to @marie:marie.cologne
https://nixos-sc.pages.dev/ 😵‍💫😵‍💫
https://rentry.co/nixos-sc-election-guide-2025 There's a good one now lol
20:19:23
@marie:marie.cologneMariedoes anyone know who is behind these pages?20:56:13
@marie:marie.cologneMariei only saw a screenshot of a discord message from jonringer which aligned pretty much with the first one20:56:33
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)Yeah, the first one is from someone from chudcord20:56:59
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaWhat does chud mean?20:57:32
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]last i checked its a 4chan-ism20:57:43
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)Might be djacu lol, he's missing from their ranking20:57:53
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegames
In reply to @marie:marie.cologne
does anyone know who is behind these pages?
The voting guide claims drupol+srid+others, but no further information
20:58:51
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)
In reply to @emma:rory.gay
last i checked its a 4chan-ism
Yeah, it's a 4chan-ism about lame alt-rights who are pathetic and complain how the west has fallen and stuff
20:59:20
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)Which promptly characterizes the people in play20:59:36
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)Idk who's done the second one though, have some disagreements with the rankings, but a good point was made how the voting system "falls through", so I'll trust their choice21:00:27
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)Besides, my disagreements aren't very large21:00:39
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegames
In reply to @kfears:matrix.org
Yeah, it's a 4chan-ism about lame alt-rights who are pathetic and complain how the west has fallen and stuff
Interesting that they use it ironically for themselves
21:01:21
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegamesAnyways, this is kinda off-topic, unfortunately our off-topic room is still in a weird quantum state so unclear how to proceed21:01:58
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)
In reply to @piegames:flausch.social
Interesting that they use it ironically for themselves
No way. Isn't it derogatory?
21:02:37
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegamesOh they don't? Maybe I'm just confused21:04:07
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears (burnt out)Idk lol maybe they do, who knows21:04:38
@k900:0upti.meK900I haven't seen it used by 4chan people21:09:34
@k900:0upti.meK900 It's mostly used by leftists as an insult for 4chan people I think 21:09:45
@emma:rory.gayEmma [it/its]ironically, i usually see it used by 4chan-adjacent right wing communities21:10:03

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