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21 Dec 2025
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.orgjakehamilton
In reply to @sofiedotcafe:matrix.org
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.org do you have an example of Nilla but with agenix or similar?
Ah I don't, I am not a fan of agenix and other existing secret solutions due to the manual work required :(
01:19:08
@acidbong:envs.netAcid Bong
In reply to @sofiedotcafe:matrix.org
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.org do you have an example of Nilla but with agenix or similar?
Nilla is just a Nix entry point system, like flakes, while Agenix and such live within NixOS
03:34:10
@acidbong:envs.netAcid Bong i think you should be able to use agenix or sops-nix regardless whether your NixOS is behind flakes, colmena and/or nilla 03:35:57
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegamesBeta test the next npins release now: https://github.com/andir/npins/pull/18513:21:37
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)I mean, agree :313:35:18
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)we really do need a better tool13:35:33
@acidbong:envs.netAcid Bong
In reply to @jakehamilton:auxolotl.org
Ah I don't, I am not a fan of agenix and other existing secret solutions due to the manual work required :(
what kinda manual work? is it about setting up ssh host keys on a new machine to decrypt the secrets?
13:49:40
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.orgjakehamilton
In reply to @acidbong:envs.net
what kinda manual work? is it about setting up ssh host keys on a new machine to decrypt the secrets?
Rekeying, managing keys for different machines, etc. There are still quite a few manual steps which I feel like shouldn't be necessary.
13:52:18
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.orgjakehamiltonPlus the issue of secrets being checked into git (even if encrypted). I think we can do better than that as well.13:53:04
@srtcd424:auxolotl.orgtc424 (Steve D)
Added npins add container, which allows pinning OCI containers
Ooooooooh ...
13:54:11
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.orgjakehamilton
In reply to @srtcd424:auxolotl.org
Added npins add container, which allows pinning OCI containers
Ooooooooh ...
I wonder if this is specific to container images or if any artifact on an OCI registry can be pinned this way. Helm charts, for example!
13:56:32
@srtcd424:auxolotl.orgtc424 (Steve D)I'm currently skimming it - https://github.com/andir/npins/pull/145/files13:57:04
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.orgjakehamilton
In reply to @srtcd424:auxolotl.org
I'm currently skimming it - https://github.com/andir/npins/pull/145/files
Same, seems to call out to nix-prefetch-docker
13:57:49
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.orgjakehamilton https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/build-support/docker/nix-prefetch-docker 13:58:09
@srtcd424:auxolotl.orgtc424 (Steve D)yeah, which is something else I didn't know existed :)13:59:29
@srtcd424:auxolotl.orgtc424 (Steve D)and that uses skopeo13:59:42
@jakehamilton:auxolotl.orgjakehamilton
In reply to @srtcd424:auxolotl.org
and that uses skopeo
Was just about to say the same. I think it should just work for any artifact then?
14:00:02
@srtcd424:auxolotl.orgtc424 (Steve D)Not sure, but even if it doesn't, it feels like it shouldn't be too complex to add14:00:47
@srtcd424:auxolotl.orgtc424 (Steve D) Anyway, I've been using an ancient static binary of docker-lock, will be nice to be able to use something more modern :) 14:02:00
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)Nix is nice since I can just quickly spin up a production ready dev environment on my grandparents desktop because I forgot my laptop14:10:46
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her)Using WSL :314:10:53
@sofiedotcafe:matrix.orgSofie 🏳️‍⚧️ (she/her) * 14:11:14
@jlc:catgirl.cloudjlcHeya- For mounting SMB shares using cifs, is the "nofail" option relevant like when declaring mounts for physical drives?16:25:49
@jlc:catgirl.cloudjlc(looks like the answer is yes - editing the wiki to say as much rn)17:06:29
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) i feel like this is a reasonable question that we should know the answer to, but i don't, so: if you hand it a big bold graph, how does lix/nix choose what to build first? it doesn't seem to start from the most depended-on derivations or any other metric which i would expect. 22:55:48
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) * i feel like this is a reasonable question that i should know the answer to, but i don't, so: if you hand it a big build graph, how does lix/nix choose what to build first? it doesn't seem to start from the most depended-on derivations or any other metric which i would expect. 22:56:29
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers (it/fae) * out of curiosity, if you hand it a big build graph, how does lix/nix choose what to build first? it doesn't seem to start from the most depended-on derivations or any other metric which i would expect. 22:59:31
22 Dec 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI don't think it tries to do anything smart at all00:06:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyjust picks stuff it can build and builds it until it's out of slots00:06:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilycertainly Hydra isn't smart about it at all00:06:44

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