| 11 Dec 2025 |
 Charles | normally this is okay because the non-identifier is an attrset key which you can access, like this
{"1-a": "foo"}."1-a"
| 19:50:59 |
| Charles | * it's quoted, which is handled specially, so no | 19:51:30 |
 Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | 
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| Charles | what about it? it's following the same rules | 19:53:32 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | one can access them even without the quotes | 19:53:59 |
| Charles | no | 19:54:06 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | well, i just did | 19:54:23 |
| Charles | that's getting parsed as one minus the value stored in the variable a minus one | 19:54:23 |
| Charles | you set a to 0 | 19:54:29 |
| Charles | wait | 19:54:37 |
| Charles | no i'm confused | 19:54:41 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | i set a to 1 | 19:54:44 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | and 1-a to 0 | 19:54:48 |
| Charles | oh then i'm not confused and you're wrong | 19:55:10 |
| Charles | this is just 1 minus 1 minus 1 | 19:55:28 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | okay yeah | 19:55:59 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | forgot that i set a | 19:56:04 |
| Charles | because a is parsed as a variable containing 1 | 19:56:04 |
| Charles | everything in the screenshots is explained by this plus "quoted variables can be set but not accessed unless it's an attrset key in which case you can use attrset."foo" to access the value for that key" | 19:58:03 |
 aloisw | You can also put it into an attrset using "inherit". | 20:01:50 |
| Charles | oh that's clever | 20:14:33 |
 Qyriad | In reply to @commentator2.0:elia.garden
sent an image. imo Nixlang2: we simply always require spaces around subtraction | 20:14:34 |
| Charles | nix-repl> "1" = 2
Added "1".
nix-repl> {inherit "1";}."1"
2
| 20:14:48 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | Nixlang2 should just forbid - in identifiers /hj | 20:15:30 |
| Qyriad | disagree | 20:15:37 |
 piegames | horrors agree ^^ | 20:15:56 |
| Qyriad | hyphens in identifiers is good actually, particularly for a package manager | 20:15:59 |
| piegames | At the very least I think unary negation without parentheses should be deprecated | 20:16:18 |
| Charles | so like just bias towards assuming no spaces means the whole thing is an identifier? | 20:16:21 |
| Qyriad | yep | 20:16:33 |
