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| Lix | 1104 Members |
| Lix user channel. Feel free to discuss on-topic issues here and give each other help. For matrix.to links to the rest of the Lix channels, see: https://wiki.lix.systems/books/lix-organisation/page/matrix-rooms | 294 Servers |
| Sender | Message | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 12 Oct 2025 | ||
 n3tcat | and when you complained they'd be like "in python there should only be 1 way to do things" | 17:50:55 |
 Charles | Okay | 17:52:33 |
 aftix | "you have to learn n squiggly lines anyway, why not n+2"? isn't a strong argument. Nix is already a niche esoteric ish language , it should minimizing special squiggly lines as much as possible. We aren't in the 1970s anymore, it really doesn't make sense to super optimize character count for something unless it's super super common (like the dart example maybe?) | 17:52:35 |
| n3tcat | I don't think it's a strong argument for why we should do it but I also don't think it's a strong argument for why we shouldn't do it. I don't think syntax is the hard part about Nix, it's everything else | 17:53:32 |
| n3tcat | why not replace && with and and || with or like python does | 17:54:14 |
 vczf | The lack of a dedicated ternary hasn’t bothered me too much because… if I have chains of if statements I’m probably in way over my head wrt nix | 17:54:21 |
| n3tcat | % can become mod | 17:54:28 |
| aftix | Because backwards compatibility , I would absolutely want and, or, and mod keywords in a new language | 17:54:53 |
| n3tcat | yeah, and chains of ternaries is even worse imo | 17:54:56 |
| n3tcat | and you'd get rid of &&/|| too or leave them in? | 17:55:17 |
| aftix | I wouldn't get rid of them, they wouldn't be there from the start (in a hypothetical new language) | 17:55:45 |
| n3tcat | I think I'm just gonna have to agree to disagree then | 17:57:20 |
 Marie | I'm still having problems with hydra, these same derivations are kind of cursed, I tried purging all of the existing builds, drvs, caches etc.I set up another hydra machine where all of this doesn't happen | 19:27:55 |
 raitobezarius | it sounds worth trying to rebuild lix and hydra with debug symbols | 19:33:35 |
| raitobezarius | then breaking with gdb at the point where it throws this exception | 19:33:43 |
| raitobezarius | and examining a bit the surrounding | 19:33:47 |
 donn | hiya, since switching to lix this happens on some is this a known issue? | 19:57:29 |
| donn | oh nvm i just aliased die to sudo shutdown -H now and forgot about it | 20:00:53 |
| donn | sorry! | 20:01:06 |
 KFears (burnt out) | In reply to @marie:marie.colognehttps://rentry.co/nixos-sc-election-guide-2025 There's a good one now lol | 20:19:23 |
| Marie | does anyone know who is behind these pages? | 20:56:13 |
| Marie | i only saw a screenshot of a discord message from jonringer which aligned pretty much with the first one | 20:56:33 |
| KFears (burnt out) | Yeah, the first one is from someone from chudcord | 20:56:59 |
 hexa | What does chud mean? | 20:57:32 |
 Emma [it/its] | last i checked its a 4chan-ism | 20:57:43 |
| KFears (burnt out) | Might be djacu lol, he's missing from their ranking | 20:57:53 |
 piegames | In reply to @marie:marie.cologneThe voting guide claims drupol+srid+others, but no further information | 20:58:51 |
| KFears (burnt out) | In reply to @emma:rory.gayYeah, it's a 4chan-ism about lame alt-rights who are pathetic and complain how the west has fallen and stuff | 20:59:20 |
| KFears (burnt out) | Which promptly characterizes the people in play | 20:59:36 |
| KFears (burnt out) | Idk who's done the second one though, have some disagreements with the rankings, but a good point was made how the voting system "falls through", so I'll trust their choice | 21:00:27 |