| 20 Feb 2026 |
 toonn | POSIX actually doesn't require more than one or two arguments (not sure whether env`s -S is an explicit exception or not) to be supported in shebangs. So it's probably a bad idea to try and do it all in a shebang anyway. The second shebang line is a pretty decent workaround IMO. | 19:50:35 |
|  shoe joined the room. | 21:56:32 |
| shoe | hi everyone | 21:57:28 |
| shoe | i'm brand new to nix/lix (but not to *nix) and decided to jump in headfirst after downgrading my macbook and discovering that brew doesn't provide binaries anymore | 21:58:24 |
| shoe | can't be spending 25 minutes compiling cmake | 21:58:46 |
 raitobezarius | brew doesn't provide binaries for aarch64-darwin anymore? | 21:59:06 |
| shoe | intel, on macos monterey | 21:59:23 |
| raitobezarius | fyi, nixpkgs cache will also start dropping x86_64-darwin soonish | 21:59:36 |
| raitobezarius | cc emily who knows better the timeline than me | 21:59:44 |
| shoe | long as its around for at least another year i'm good :p i was going to buy a new laptop but i decided to wait a little longer | 22:00:33 |
 leona | After 26.05 branchoff, I.e. the full 26.05 support cycle still supports it, but not 26.11 | 22:00:35 |
| raitobezarius | so this basically means that in Oct 2026, Intel macOS is no more in the cache | 22:00:56 |
| raitobezarius | for stable releases | 22:01:02 |
| raitobezarius | and no more in May 2026 for unstable | 22:01:07 |
| raitobezarius | * and no more in June 2026 for unstable | 22:01:11 |
| leona | No, End of December? | 22:01:20 |
| leona | * No, End of December 2026? | 22:01:23 |
| raitobezarius | true | 22:01:32 |
| raitobezarius | * so this basically means that in Dec. 2026, Intel macOS is no more in the cache | 22:01:44 |
 emily | more to the point, we already do not support Monterey in Nixpkgs | 22:01:44 |
| emily | macOS 14 is our baseline requirement | 22:01:58 |
| emily | (it may work, but YMMV) | 22:02:04 |
| emily | it's out of security support from Apple fwiw | 22:02:20 |
| emily | maybe consider OCLP if your hardware doesn't natively support newer releases | 22:02:32 |
| shoe | my hardware supports up to macos 14 but 'supporting' and 'being usable' are two different things | 22:02:58 |
| shoe | its a 2019 air | 22:03:08 |
| shoe | i've been slumming it out with sonoma but atp i'm fed up. i tried ventura first but that doesn't really offer an improvement. meanwhile monterey is butter | 22:04:18 |
| raitobezarius | anyway, welcome at Lix, just wanted to set expectations straight :) | 22:09:04 |
| emily | the Intel Mac experience is pretty miserable at this point | 22:13:12 |
| shoe | complete horses*** luck buying this ewaste right before apple silicon | 22:13:53 |
