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5 Dec 2025
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
have you tried a lower value?
I have not, but I think the problem is not so much that the size is excessive, but that the checkpointer is never alone so the WAL grows without bound.
06:26:19
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
but i feel like the fact that lix is blocked by the potential event that the WAL contains a record relevant to it is a mistake given our usage of flock to mark the future happening of a store path
Thanks for the hint, I will investigate whether this has any influence on the situation.
06:27:54
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
maybe we can improve things by initiating checkpoints ourselves at key points…
SQLite does that because of autocheckpoint, but the problem is that these are non-blocking (PASSIVE) checkpoints. I will investigate tomorrow whether RESTART makes the situation better; it should prevent unbounded WAL growth at the expense of some concurrency, but maybe it's still a net win if the write transactions aren't slowed down so much.
06:30:51
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
whereas for writes, it seems it'd be good if we could have multiple WAL so that once one is committed, the other can be still filled?
wal2 when
06:31:04
13 May 2024
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@mjm:midna.devmjmlix is now in nixos-unstable, what's the best way to use it in a NixOS config?15:47:41
@k900:0upti.meK900nix.package = pkgs.lix15:47:54
@k900:0upti.meK900Probably15:47:58
@k900:0upti.meK900Or just keep using the module15:48:02
@puck:puck.moepuck you can use nix.package = pkgs.lix; if you want; but using the overlay will guarantee more updates (tho less binary cache) 15:48:44
@mjm:midna.devmjmwell, the module/overlay doesn't easily support using the one from nixpkgs15:48:44
@mjm:midna.devmjmi do want more binary cache15:49:21
@mjm:midna.devmjm yeah i guess i'll just do nix.package then 15:50:43
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusto have binary cache and HEAD, we will probably need to track the channels and bolt a lix on there and rebuild with our own CI then push in our binary cache17:33:17
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesWhat's lix using as its binary cache? Attic?17:34:36
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian left the room.17:37:44
@tc424:glasgow.social@tc424:glasgow.socialLast I heard they were using garage as the back end, and think about attic17:39:11
@tc424:glasgow.social@tc424:glasgow.socialI don't know if that means they're just pushing directly into garage's s3 interface for the moment17:39:36
@tc424:glasgow.social@tc424:glasgow.social* Last I heard they were using garage as the back end, and thinking about attic17:39:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @charles:computer.surgery
What's lix using as its binary cache? Attic?
garage without attic
17:41:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit's homemade just nix push thingie17:41:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusand nix sign17:41:25
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriadyep17:44:26
@tc424:glasgow.social@tc424:glasgow.socialI've just given up on attic due to weird non-deterministic auth problems that nobody else seems to have experienced17:44:31
@tc424:glasgow.social@tc424:glasgow.socialStill half convinced I'm "holding it wrong" somehow17:44:49
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesYeah I experienced lots of jank with attic17:44:56
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesI think it turned out to be my fault though, for the big issue17:45:11
@charles:computer.surgeryCharlesBut sometimes during pushing the connection just dies for no reason17:45:29

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