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@mangoiv.:matrix.org@mangoiv.:matrix.orghttps://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-open-board-meeting-2024-03-20/41209?u=mangoiv21:37:21
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
In reply to @patka_123:matrix.org
Can you post here for example: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-na-2024-is-getting-sponsored-by-anduril-what-to-do-about-it/41258/4
Or does it also say "Please wait an hour between posts in this topic"?
if we're going to do feature testing it is probably best done in a testing thread, to avoid pollution and distraction
21:37:25
@mangoiv.:matrix.org@mangoiv.:matrix.org For people who didn’t see it in the foundation channel 21:37:30
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekThis channel is to discuss a policy that we should adopt. If there are specific questions, I can answer them (please do so in a thread so it is easier to track the flow of the discussion, and allow the original people to participate in that thread without piling in too much).21:37:51
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
In reply to @shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.org
How is the usage of the software less critical as the support of it?
I think both are bad, and I suspect that quite a few others feel so too, but that is a problem with a much harder solution
21:38:04
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
if we're going to do feature testing it is probably best done in a testing thread, to avoid pollution and distraction
Just wondering if you see an input box and not that message I sent earlier
21:37:58
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org Don't have to type in there 21:38:06
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @patka_123:matrix.org
Can you post here for example: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-na-2024-is-getting-sponsored-by-anduril-what-to-do-about-it/41258/4
Or does it also say "Please wait an hour between posts in this topic"?
Yes it always says that as long as the feature is active. I think the check only happens while actually posting? Also, likes definitely shouldn't count to that
21:38:07
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
In reply to @patka_123:matrix.org
Just wondering if you see an input box and not that message I sent earlier
oh right. if I hit Reply I get an input box yes
21:38:35
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotI think GitHub is probably our best bet for a platform to publish a statement on this issue for linkage and signatures21:38:55
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ tomberek: note that many people cannot use threads either due to client support or cognitive incompatibilities 21:39:10
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org Turns out I'm just a big dummy. Nevermind. Sorry for the false alarm :P 21:39:09
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ * tomberek: note that many people cannot use threads on Matrix either due to client support or cognitive incompatibilities 21:39:19
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotWould anyone like to volunteer to write an initial draft of a statement and/or host it under their namespace? I would offer but I am very new to this community and worry about optics21:40:25
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ rhelmot: what sort of statement are you thinking of? 21:41:14
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotSomething to summarize the community consensus and collect signatures in support of β€œdo not do this”21:41:45
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomDo we talk about a statement about how the conclusion formed, to accept the second sponsorship, or a statement of the community, that we disagree with it?21:41:55
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomAh, yeah. 21:42:04
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ rhelmot: would the intended recipient of this statement be the Foundation, the internet at large, something else? 21:42:30
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomI think we should include the reasoning for the why as well, cause I still dont know that as an example and I have failed to read that in the above discussion21:42:38
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalomor anywhere else, really.21:42:43
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmot I think the board members who have the ability to reverse the decision 21:42:50
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomI think the write up could also include that exact sum and implications that is being sponsored21:43:45
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomSo that people can form an informed opinion. 21:43:52
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotYep21:44:00
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmot
  • statement of facts
  • ethical concerns
  • statement of purpose
21:44:24
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalom * I think the write up could also include that exact sum and implications on what is being sponsored21:44:34
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ I think a signatory letter to the board would be a viable idea. I'm more cautious about an open letter; this is a complex subject, where the majority of people is unlikely to have a lot of background understanding of the topic, and that means that if you try to basically play the numbers game, that can very easily backfire 21:44:58
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆbecause we can do our best to explain the problem, but there is still only so much that you can get across in a few paragraphs 21:45:27
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆI think we can expect board members to take the time to understand the topic, with the letter as a guide; but that same expectation does not really fly for, say, random redditors21:46:01

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