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NixCon Sponsorship Policy Discussion

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11 Mar 2024
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalom joined the room.21:17:09
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@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomI guess this opens up an entirely different can of worms, but how far are we going to take this? Assuming we all have the same ethical considerations - which is doubtful - are we taking our ethics just to sponsorships? Wouldn't the same concerns be valid, when we know that a company like Anduril uses NixOS for their activity? I am fully aware, that this might burst the context of this discussion. 21:25:38
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@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomI am going to leave this here as an inspiration. https://github.com/atErik/PeaceOSL/blob/main/PeaceOSL.txt21:26:34
@ckie:ckie.dev@ckie:ckie.dev The current problem is the foundation has already agreed to let Anduril sponsor. This will happen unless we stop it, and this is what we should be discussing. 21:26:57
@ckie:ckie.dev@ckie:ckie.dev This is a company that is facilitating murder of people and on the Discourse we can see the majority is not interested in their contributions being affiliated with Anduril 21:29:04
@ckie:ckie.dev@ckie:ckie.devThis room was linked by tomberek so we could inspect the previous discussions that went on here. Personally I think the discourse is a better place to continue the current discussion.21:30:05
@rhelmot:matrix.orgrhelmotMaybe the right thing to do is write up a statement and collect signatures, then post it to that thread21:30:19
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org
In reply to @ckie:ckie.dev
This room was linked by tomberek so we could inspect the previous discussions that went on here. Personally I think the discourse is a better place to continue the current discussion.
They only allow for 1 post per hour there, so good luck getting through
21:30:53
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @patka_123:matrix.org
They only allow for 1 post per hour there, so good luck getting through
Methinks you are misunderstanding the feature. The timer is per person
21:31:26
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org
In reply to @piegames:matrix.org
Methinks you are misunderstanding the feature. The timer is per person
Methinks too, but I haven't posted anything and it still says that and can't post
21:32:18
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org I have pressed like on one post though, maybe that counts too? 21:32:37
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈(that sounds like a bug)21:32:54
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.org
In reply to @rhelmot:matrix.org
Maybe the right thing to do is write up a statement and collect signatures, then post it to that thread
make it a git repo where people can send signed patches :)
21:32:52
@janik0:matrix.org@janik0:matrix.org
In reply to @rhelmot:matrix.org
Maybe the right thing to do is write up a statement and collect signatures, then post it to that thread
* make it a git repo where people can send signed commits :)
21:33:26
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
(that sounds like a bug)
I guess. But that's why I thought it was one post per hour for everyone
21:33:29
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈yeah understandable. that's definitely not how it's supposed to work afaik21:33:43
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
yeah understandable. that's definitely not how it's supposed to work afaik

Can you post here for example: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-na-2024-is-getting-sponsored-by-anduril-what-to-do-about-it/41258/4

Or does it also say "Please wait an hour between posts in this topic"

21:35:30
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org Because I think what piegames intentended is actually not how it currently is working 21:35:52
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalom
In reply to @ckie:ckie.dev
This is a company that is facilitating murder of people and on the Discourse we can see the majority is not interested in their contributions being affiliated with Anduril
I absolutely do support that sentiment and still fail to see how Anduril already using NixOS and killing people with it, is somehow less important.
21:36:05
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org Can you post here for example: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-na-2024-is-getting-sponsored-by-anduril-what-to-do-about-it/41258/4
Or does it also say "Please wait an hour between posts in this topic"?
21:36:44
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomHow is the usage of the software less critical as the support of it?21:37:13
@mangoiv.:matrix.org@mangoiv.:matrix.orghttps://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-open-board-meeting-2024-03-20/41209?u=mangoiv21:37:21
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈
In reply to @patka_123:matrix.org
Can you post here for example: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixcon-na-2024-is-getting-sponsored-by-anduril-what-to-do-about-it/41258/4
Or does it also say "Please wait an hour between posts in this topic"?
if we're going to do feature testing it is probably best done in a testing thread, to avoid pollution and distraction
21:37:25
@mangoiv.:matrix.org@mangoiv.:matrix.org For people who didn’t see it in the foundation channel 21:37:30
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekThis channel is to discuss a policy that we should adopt. If there are specific questions, I can answer them (please do so in a thread so it is easier to track the flow of the discussion, and allow the original people to participate in that thread without piling in too much).21:37:51

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