| 20 Mar 2024 |
 Colin | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
The litmus test; socially and legally, it would work and be consistent, though I don't recommend it as a policy.
The legal and social distinctions between these activities are made precisely because of the potential for miscommunication, fraud, conflicts of interest, and various moral hazards. What we see various policy makers do is establish a way for sponsorships to stay on the right side of the line. If we err too far over, yes, we should correct for the benefits we offer. If they are of too high value, or violate these social and legal conventions, we should adjust. i might understand your desire to "bucket" things cleanly into advertisement v.s. sponsorship though. | 02:40:27 |
| Colin | it might help to order these buckets based on (some vague measure of) the value they provide the other party. like, advertising < sponsorship < endorsement, and then try to figure out (or place) the more precise boundaries from there. | 02:47:42 |
| Colin | if it's actually sponsorship < advertising, say, then the whole thing seems kinda moot: the classifications wouldn't matter if even the lowest tier was already controversial. | 02:48:46 |
| Colin | * | 02:49:00 |
| Colin | * | 02:51:35 |
 tomberek | We don't have to figure out these buckets ourselves. This whole debate is about figuring it out, and leads to a colossal waste of time. Plenty of other people in history have figured this out, or at least can provide us with a starting spot. I just researched this and I hope it's not just confirmation bias, but I found only a few social-mission focused organizations that are this sensitive to the sponsorship question. Not a single technology-focused organization behaves this way, most don't even have a policy; please let me know if I've missed a broad swath of them somewhere. | 02:52:33 |
| Colin | that may be true (i'm not equipped to say), but it doesn't solve our problem | 02:54:56 |
| tomberek | In reply to @colin:uninsane.org
that may be true (i'm not equipped to say), but it doesn't solve our problem No, it does not. sad | 02:55:20 |
| tomberek | In reply to @colin:uninsane.org
that may be true (i'm not equipped to say), but it doesn't solve our problem * No, it does not. sad | 02:55:37 |
| tomberek | * No, it does not. is sad | 02:55:43 |
| tomberek | * No, it does not. tom is sad | 02:56:51 |
| tomberek | I'd rather spend this time fundraising for the overall organization, or convincing people to rely upon Nix, to help provide resources into our most critical areas, to show the world a better way to smash buttons on their machines made of sand and glass. | 02:58:47 |
| Colin | i believe you. i as well would rather act on the outstanding PRs i've been asked to review. | 03:00:05 |
| Colin | but this matters | 03:00:20 |
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 @phileas:asra.gr | https://discourse.nixos.org/t/sponsorship-policy-discussion-2024-04-07/42909
Summary from yesterdays discussion call on that topic. | 15:29:37 |
 @patka_123:matrix.org | hexa nice work on the notes! Appreciate it | 15:32:52 |
 ronef | Yeah, Hexa has insane skills there! | 15:54:11 |
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| 10 Apr 2024 |
 @janik0:matrix.org | We just published the official policy: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-event-sponsorship-policy/43110 | 10:33:13 |
| @patka_123:matrix.org | Just a small nit: is it possible to expand the PL abbreviation in "... and 1 from the NixCon PL team..." | 10:41:09 |
