| 19 Sep 2025 |
 K900 | The control plane is software | 19:33:10 |
 lord_fomo | lol clearly | 19:33:22 |
| lord_fomo | i'm not asking you what a distributed runtime is | 19:33:34 |
| lord_fomo | what you are calling a "control plane" | 19:33:39 |
| K900 | That's not what I'm calling a control plane | 19:33:53 |
| K900 | What I'm calling a control plane is an actual network control plane | 19:34:40 |
| K900 | Which will allow you to provision your machines entirely remotely over e.g. PXE | 19:35:02 |
| K900 | And maintain persistent machine identity etc | 19:35:15 |
| lord_fomo | ok well i'm looking for recipes like "we use a pxe boot sys over this kind of link layer" kinda thing. | 19:35:23 |
| lord_fomo | although ideally not actually that if there's better approaches | 19:35:42 |
| K900 | This is currently not a problem that has a pre-made solution, but it is absolutely possible to build one | 19:35:43 |
| K900 | And your exact network setup will depend on your exact requirements | 19:36:06 |
| K900 | It's really not the network setup that's the problem | 19:36:06 |
| K900 | The core idea is not complicated, all the fiddly bits are, and that's the part no one has done yet | 19:36:33 |
| K900 | Or at least no one has made into a reusable thing | 19:36:41 |
| lord_fomo | ok, so in other words there isn't much you know of | 19:37:05 |
| lord_fomo | well that's kinda interesting | 19:37:19 |
| K900 | There isn't much full stop | 19:37:19 |
| K900 | I know what there is | 19:37:22 |
| K900 | And it is not much | 19:37:30 |
| lord_fomo | gotcha | 19:37:42 |
| K900 | Maybe if you're looking for a startup idea | 19:37:42 |
| lord_fomo | lol | 19:37:51 |
| lord_fomo | already got too many of those as part of the first one | 19:38:01 |
| lord_fomo | hmm, this also feels like something that could fit well in a "libre boot" ecosys come to think of it | 19:38:23 |
| lord_fomo | where the bios comes up with sshd + basic image waiting for a deployment | 19:38:47 |
| lord_fomo | huh, speaking of, TIL that pxe is now part of the uefi std? | 19:39:58 |
| K900 | Always has been | 19:40:17 |
| lord_fomo |
The concept behind the PXE originated in the early days of protocols like BOOTP/DHCP/TFTP, and as of 2015 it forms part of the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) standard. In modern data centers, PXE is the most frequent choice[1] for operating system booting, installation and deployment.
| 19:40:30 |
| lord_fomo | oh well i didn't know then | 19:40:33 |
