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 hexa | * this is uncalled for and a blatant misrepresentation of the infra team | 16:07:14 |
 Manu [tennox] | Out of curiosity (and potentially clearing up uncertainty) - what *is* the actual impulse/idea about?
(I don't know anything) | 16:48:47 |
 Julien | Some people are talking about that, but not on behalf of the infra team | 16:49:32 |
| Julien | And they are only discussing potential scenarios | 16:50:12 |
| hexa | The general idea is to to host the bucket behind cache.nixos.org in a sustainable way. | 17:02:18 |
| hexa | Investigating self-hosting (in a data center) has not been ruled out at this time. | 17:08:28 |
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| Manu [tennox] | Thanks!
Good to think in all directions :) | 19:07:44 |
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| MangoIV | Hey guys! Seeing that Anduril is once again sponsor of a NixOS foundation event, I would like to know where and how the decision to accept sponsorship of „these kinds of companies“ have been made. For NixCon 2023 I remember there to have been quite the debate and the foundation promised to work out guidelines for such situations, so I would like to know where and how this has been conducted and what results have been achieved. Thanks in advance! :) | 19:44:42 |
 raitobezarius | Some elements can be found in the board minutes here: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-meeting-minutes-2024-01-02-2024-02-03/39994 | 19:45:21 |
| raitobezarius | In particular: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-meeting-minutes-2024-01-02-2024-02-03/39994#h-2024-01-30-20 | 19:45:49 |
| MangoIV | Anduril-
People don’t make the distinction between NixOS Foundation and NixCon.
The foundation doesn’t discriminate so comply with the local organizers
there was a proposal from Tom with an Apache-like policy which is pretty basic for the entity to be legal
do we have community values that we can flesh out as guidelines?
must not be hostile to the community and goals and must align with our code of conduct
make it transparent how we made the decision and communicate
The decision is approved after evaluating the code of conduct, notes, and bylaws of the organizing entity (SCALE)
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| MangoIV | This is it? (Just to make sure) | 19:48:37 |
| raitobezarius | Off the top of my head, this is what I can think of, yes | 19:48:52 |
| raitobezarius | I remember there were multiple discussions about establishing a guidelines, in public avenues (but maybe not so perfectly accessible / advertised) that led to not a lot of thing, like #nixcon-sponsor-discussion:nixos.org | 19:49:19 |
 samueldr | Given that the NixCon NA team goes against the precedent from taking a specific controversial sponsor, I am asking that the NixOS Foundation and/or NixCon EU team distanciates themselves from the NixCon NA team, and furthermore, it would be nice if they'd ask for them to pick a name reflecting their distance from the community. | 19:49:20 |
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 tomberek | MangoIV: A proper codified policy has not been put in place yet. I've got a proposed one here (https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/110) that we used in the interim. I was involved in various ways and can answer any questions. | 19:49:36 |
| samueldr | rossturk: can you elaborate? | 19:50:06 |
| MangoIV | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
I remember there were multiple discussions about establishing a guidelines, in public avenues (but maybe not so perfectly accessible / advertised) that led to not a lot of thing, like #nixcon-sponsor-discussion:nixos.org It is disappointing from my point of view that this is low priority and that this is the only thing that the NixOS foundation has come up with to address the very loud concerns of many community members. I hope for the future that this is sorted out and that community feedback is considered. I see that many of these discussion lead to nothing and are very heated and unprofessional but I still am of the strong opinion that this needs to be sorted out. Thank you for the info! | 19:52:23 |
| MangoIV | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.org
MangoIV: A proper codified policy has not been put in place yet. I've got a proposed one here (https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/110) that we used in the interim. I was involved in various ways and can answer any questions. Thank you, I will have a look :) | 19:52:43 |
 @theophane:hufschmitt.net | As shown in the notes that raitobezarius linked, this is a decision that has been taken with the approval of the Foundation (“The decision is approved after evaluating the code of conduct, notes, and bylaws of the organizing entity (SCALE)”). This is based as tomberek said on the temporary policy drafted here (waiting for a definite one). | 20:00:57 |
