| 29 Apr 2024 |
 samrose | Just talk it out is not enough agree | 14:56:42 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | that is why we are at the point we are now | 14:56:45 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | pretty much everything you might think of has already been attempted | 14:56:54 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | (these issues and attempts at resolving them have been ongoing for years by this point) | 14:57:30 |
 problems | there's some conflation of "rules" with "moderation" here. effective moderation is based on promoting positive values and leading by example, not strictly enforcing a specific set of rules which can by nature only cover a subset of possible bad behavior | 14:59:45 |
| samrose | joepie91 🏳️🌈: I've been around since 2018, and I have some familiarity, but don't know everything. Definitely not trying to negate you, nor do I seek to take space away from you in the discussion now.
If the board were able to do the kinds of things we discuss here, that includes sound ways to make sure we don't destroy shared resources (tangible or intangible) and make the community more comfortable for people in the ways we discuss, I'd be happy personally.
I know from experience helping to see these things through elsewhere, that it will take some time
| 14:59:52 |
| samrose | problems:
effective moderation is based on promoting positive values and leading by example,
Agree. I am not trying to state that rules alone will solve the problem. But from my experience, they will also help
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| @paperdigits:matrix.org | https://aux.computer/ | 20:04:09 |
 aleksana | In reply to @paperdigits:matrix.org
https://aux.computer/ This is more of a dream2nix than dream2nix itself | 20:43:23 |
| aleksana | But I would say, let's go and see | 20:43:29 |
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| Valodim | In reply to @paperdigits:matrix.org
https://aux.computer/ So... who? | 21:21:12 |
| @paperdigits:matrix.org | Valodim: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/aux-computer-an-alternative-to-the-nix-ecosystem/44420 | 21:25:21 |
| Valodim | ok then | 21:28:07 |
 hexa | I think it's a bit premature to call it an alternative | 23:12:18 |
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| aleksana | Hi, are there any progress (by the foundation) to carry out the more significant updates? I'm not one to push for updates very often, but the current situation is in dire need of repair.
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/small-update-from-the-board/44292 | 06:49:17 |
 lassulus | afaik there is an announcement coming this afternoon | 06:49:53 |
| aleksana | In reply to @lassulus:lassul.us
afaik there is an announcement coming this afternoon Then I won't publish any more peace-promoting words at this time. I'll review some PRs instead. Looking forward to the announcement later! | 06:52:12 |
 Jonas Chevalier | We have been working tirelessly with trusted community members to bring big changes to the project. I wish we could be more transparent, but we also have to limit the amount of noise in order to get this out in time. | 07:55:30 |
 ronef | Confirming that the intent is to release it today | 08:27:00 |
 Ivan Mincik (imincik) | In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
We have been working tirelessly with trusted community members to bring big changes to the project. I wish we could be more transparent, but we also have to limit the amount of noise in order to get this out in time. Thank you all ! | 09:31:04 |
