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27 Apr 2024
@janik0:matrix.orgJanik (they/them)
In reply to @theophane:hufschmitt.net
I certainly can't say I know everything, but I can't remember ever seeing that (I've seen board members engaged in all kind of discussion ofc, but not using some magic board wand to veto anything). Do you have some example?
there was a sponsorship policy draft and Eelco went and misrepresented the board by stating his own opinion and making it sound like that's the board decision. (that was in the open board call so I don't know if it is written down somewhere)
13:10:47
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.townthe separation between personal opinions and formal authority only exists on paper, it never actually works that way in reality13:11:21
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town(and a good non-interference policy is designed to account for that)13:11:51
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town
In reply to @theophane:hufschmitt.net
(if anything, the sponsorship situation was the foundation not opposing a veto to a team's decision)
the sponsorship situation is an exceptional one, because it concerns "using the reputation of the project as a whole for something" (namely, endorsement of the sponsor) and this means that making that decision is not within the mandate of a conference team to begin with
13:13:15
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town that is also why people only expected a sponsorship policy for official events 13:13:46
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town * that is also why people only expected a sponsorship policy for official events, because those are the ones where that problem applies 13:13:56
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town(in an ideal world, an official conference sponsor would be a community-wide discussion, but when you do not have functioning moderation - which again seems to boil down to a lack of mandate - that becomes almost impossible to pull off)13:17:13
@theophane:hufschmitt.net@theophane:hufschmitt.net
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
the sponsorship situation is an exceptional one, because it concerns "using the reputation of the project as a whole for something" (namely, endorsement of the sponsor) and this means that making that decision is not within the mandate of a conference team to begin with
That's completely fair. I was just pointing out that the tendency is definitely that of under-intervention, not over-
13:18:00
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianOkay but shat I don't understand. Isn't "the board will not have an opinion" a first step to "the community decides" ? 13:18:13
@withoutwithin:matrix.org@withoutwithin:matrix.orgI have had many thoughts about this and everything related over the last month. I've written up a post that I feel summarizes my emotions, feelings, and has my official response to this situation. I wish you all luck in your future endeavors. Please take the time to read my post before you ask me questions that can be answered by reading the post carefully. https://xeiaso.net/blog/2024/much-ado-about-nothing/13:18:59
@withoutwithin:matrix.org@withoutwithin:matrix.orgbe well,13:19:30
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