For example a short citation

It [the foundation] was not intended to “run” the Nix/NixOS community

or

First, I have had very little involvement in Nixpkgs and NixOS in recent years, having ceded their stewardship to other community members some time ago

In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
Being the only member of the Nix team who also works for Determinate Systems really does not at all contradict the idea of DetSys seeking to leverage influence over the project…

In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org
No, I accept the sponsorship policy that we agreed to two weeks ago even if it's not my ideal. Exactly because I'm not a BDFL who gets to decide that on his own.

In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org

I just want to re-iterate what my post says:

The assertion that Determinate Systems “owns” Nix or seeks to exert outsized influence over the project, the community, or the foundation is patently false: I am the only member of the Nix team who works for Determinate Systems.

So no, I or Determinate Systems do not in any way claim to own Nix, the community, the infrastructure or the foundation.

In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org

I just want to re-iterate what my post says:

The assertion that Determinate Systems “owns” Nix or seeks to exert outsized influence over the project, the community, or the foundation is patently false: I am the only member of the Nix team who works for Determinate Systems.

So no, I or Determinate Systems do not in any way claim to own Nix, the community, the infrastructure or the foundation.

In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org

I just want to re-iterate what my post says:

The assertion that Determinate Systems “owns” Nix or seeks to exert outsized influence over the project, the community, or the foundation is patently false: I am the only member of the Nix team who works for Determinate Systems.

So no, I or Determinate Systems do not in any way claim to own Nix, the community, the infrastructure or the foundation.

In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org
What influence do you see us seeking? For instance, we're not NixOS release managers, we're not on the RFC SC, the mod team, etc.

In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org
What influence do you see us seeking? For instance, we're not NixOS release managers, we're not on the RFC SC, the mod team, etc.

In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org
What influence do you see us seeking? For instance, we're not NixOS release managers, we're not on the RFC SC, the mod team, etc.

In reply to @piegames:matrix.org
https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/pull/140
This is the sponsorship policy we could have gotten without you blocking it

I think this throws up a question, that might or might not be clear at this point.

Are we a democracy? Since I agree, when we are, that the majority of the community seems to be for this enhanced policy, that bans MIC from sponsoring.

I am potentially not well informed, - quite frankly, the situation seems to be not clear by design - but is there even a generally agreed upon structure, on how we decide things?

If we have no BDFL, what do we have?
I did my fair share of research on that, and this seems to be a mysterium. 🫤

Appreciate all your investments. 👍🏻

I usually refrain from engaging in community discussions, but the recent events and your message have compelled me to voice my thoughts. I have been a proponent of adopting Nix at the European Commission, advocating for its benefits and potential. However, the unfolding situation and, specifically, the content and medium of your recent post is a trigger and I will seriously think twice before advocating Nix in the future.

While I recognize and appreciate the good waves and intentions behind your message, using the Determinate Systems blog to address a "community" (as mentioned in the post title) concerns that are fundamentally about the Nix community blurs the lines between corporate and community interests. By directing the conversation to the Determinate Systems' platforms — as seen in the mention in the last sentences, of joining the DetSys Discord — it could be perceived as conflating the Nix community with Determinate Systems, which adds confusion to the confusion. The situation with the "Nix installers" where every single of my colleagues ask me why there are multiple installers existing... all of this is very tiring and cumbersome, and to some extent, dangerous for the project adoption.

I sincerely hope we can find a way to address these community concerns more clearly and separately from corporate affiliations. A more distinct delineation might help reassure the community and myself about the independence and openness of Nix. I am open to dialogue and hope to see steps taken that might help change my perspective on the ongoing issues... good luck Eelco.