| 27 Apr 2024 |
 ronef | agreed | 16:36:25 |
| ronef | again this is my program efficiency brain kicking in so please push back if I'm approaching this wrong | 16:37:07 |
| ronef | Are we able to define clearly what we need to do NOW (i.e. phase 1) vs what we can do later (phase 2)? | 16:37:35 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | In reply to @kity:kity.wtf
Eelco has repeatedly stated that he does not want to be seen as a BDFL, that he does not hold any real power, that he would be willing to step down from his roles. He has also been asked (by a large portion of the community) to step down. Why has Eelco not stepped down? I would say that this is a concrete actionable point for now, since the expectations are clear, there are no obvious barriers anymore, and it is an issue that affects the ability to resolve many other issues in the long term | 16:38:37 |
| ronef | * I would like to at the least split the now to the later. | 16:38:54 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | maybe the concrete actionable point for "now", even | 16:38:54 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | I would personally say that the issues of "moderation", "ability to have governance discussions", and "confidence of teams that they have authority over their responsibility" can then be grouped under "later"/long-term - but I am only speaking for myself there of course | 16:40:20 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | * I would personally say that the issues of "moderation", "ability to have governance discussions", and "confidence of teams that they have authority over their responsibility" (including a broader non-interference policy) can then be grouped under "later"/long-term - but I am only speaking for myself there of course | 16:40:43 |
 problems | Eelco's recusal would signal to people that he no longer intends to be an obstacle to progress in the ways previously stated by myself and many other community members. If he truly holds no attachment to authority, there should be no issue with this obvious step. | 16:43:00 |
| ronef | Just as an update here - Working on this. It's also a Saturday and appears to be a national holiday for areas in Europe if it seems that there's a slower response time please ping me and I'll try to follow up or provide the latest as well. | 17:39:43 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | king's day in NL, at least | 17:41:21 |
| ronef | Yeah that's what I understood | 17:44:14 |
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 MangoIV | Mastodon has declared NixOS dead. 😅 | 08:24:16 |
| MangoIV | * Mastodon has declared NixOS dead over night. 😅 | 08:24:29 |
 patka | I don't think this is the correct place for such messages | 08:27:22 |
| MangoIV | I do think it is. I want to be sure that people involved know what kind of echo this is causing. | 08:28:47 |
| MangoIV | And by „this“ I don’t only mean the people from the foundation. | 08:30:23 |
| MangoIV | * And by „this“ I don’t only mean the foundation. | 08:30:38 |
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 Arian | I do not think it's appropriate. It doesn't add anything constructive to the discussion, is instigative, and a waste of everybody's mental health energy (which is already low). | 11:35:03 |
| Arian | We are all able to follow social media on our own time (or not). There is a discussion about this exact topic on Discourse I would like you to redirect to instead. https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-is-not-dying-please-dont-spread-fear-actively/44310/21 | 11:35:55 |
