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11 Apr 2024
@ronef:matrix.orgronef
In reply to @janik0:matrix.org
I don't think there is a active ongoing call for sponsors (afaik), you can of course always donate to the foundation using open collective.
There is work being done on elevating those costs, but that was mostly put on ice because we didn't have any infra capacity for the last month or so to do more then keeping the lights on because people were striking. And btw I'm very happy to see work happening in the infra channel, it fills my heart with joy.
I have an initial plan proposal for general Nix fundraising as a formal yearly effort to elevate our ability to have long term sustainability with high confidence recurring inbound funds. Also something I've pushed down to a P1 (I rank priorities from P0 to P2) for a lot of our sponsorship discussions but plan to bring it back up to a P0 right after I get the financials out. If anyone is interested in that as well let me know
18:25:00
@ronef:matrix.orgronefWe really need to figure out how to keep money flowing in the community, especially when we're talking about putting serious money, like 100K, into our projects. Right now, I'm not sure we'd be able to get that money back or renew it. So, getting a steady income stream is something I'm really focused on.18:27:31
@ronef:matrix.orgronef * We really need to figure out how to keep resources flowing recurringly in the community, especially when we're talking about putting serious money, like 100K, into our projects or community areas. Right now, I'm not sure we'd be able to get that money back or renew it. So, getting a steady income stream is something I'm really focused on.18:28:02
@ronef:matrix.orgronef * We really need to figure out how to keep resources flowing recurringly in the community, especially when we're talking about putting serious money, like 100K, into our projects or community areas. Right now, I'm not sure we'd be able to get that money back or renew it. So, getting a steady donation/income stream is something I'm really focused on.18:28:34
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI wrote quite a lengthy internal document at Mercury that convinced leadership to sponsor the S3 project back when we made the larger donation I could ask if I can share that with you Ron. Could help others at companies convince their employers to sponsor. 18:29:02
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI did have a secret hope other companies would match Mercury's donation but that unfortunately didn't happen18:29:54
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianAnd you're definitely open to come for coffee to see if we can make more opportunities for this :)18:30:34
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianLike I'd want to give people guide rails for maintainers how to bring this up with their employer that theyd like them to sponsor Nix and move needles. I think it'd be helpful . I think a lot of people underestimate how much can be done if just 1 person in a company is motivated to push a budget request through 18:34:15
@ronef:matrix.orgronefWe have a lot of examples of this so I can only say that it would be an incredible idea18:34:54
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@ktemkin:katesiria.org[K]ate TemkinAs a CEO of a (smaller) company that uses Nix, I've considered reaching out about donations/sponsorships in the past -- but I'm very hesitant to even appear to support the foundation when I keep hearing (and in some cases, seeing) that the project has a reputation for ostracizing underrepresented folks.19:33:41
@ktemkin:katesiria.org[K]ate TemkinI would love to be able to feel good about supporting Nix, and would love to be able to convince others to do so (I routinely give conference talks/keynotes/trainings and similar), but I think I'd struggle without some tangible proof things are being addressed first.19:35:59
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12 Apr 2024
@janik0:matrix.orgJanik (they/them)
In reply to @ktemkin:katesiria.org
I would love to be able to feel good about supporting Nix, and would love to be able to convince others to do so (I routinely give conference talks/keynotes/trainings and similar), but I think I'd struggle without some tangible proof things are being addressed first.

without some tangible proof things are being addressed first.

This is a bit hard to act on, can you list a few things you would like to change or a few points that you think need addressing?

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@pareto-optimal-dev:matrix.orgpareto-optimal-dev
In reply to @janik0:matrix.org

without some tangible proof things are being addressed first.

This is a bit hard to act on, can you list a few things you would like to change or a few points that you think need addressing?

I surely don't speak for them, but I'm willing to bet mandatory declarations of all potential conflicts of interest by all foundation members would go a long way towards building trust.
14:47:09
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town(make sure everybody is operating on the same definition of "conflict of interest" there)14:48:02
@ronef:matrix.orgronefThat should be a priority15:34:37
@ronef:matrix.orgronef * That should be a priority, especially if we feel it can help us build up15:35:15
@janik0:matrix.orgJanik (they/them)

As promised: here are the published by-laws https://github.com/NixOS/foundation?tab=readme-ov-file#the-nixos-foundation-by-laws
Hope this clears some questions and concerns people had :)

cc Arian and delroth since you were discussing the how board membership is defined

16:10:02
@samrose:matrix.orgsamrose
In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
Like I'd want to give people guide rails for maintainers how to bring this up with their employer that theyd like them to sponsor Nix and move needles. I think it'd be helpful . I think a lot of people underestimate how much can be done if just 1 person in a company is motivated to push a budget request through
https://wasabi.com/ has lower network egress charges as far as I can recall, and I wonder if they would be interested in sponsoring and hosting? ( I don't know anyone there directly, and maybe it's been discussed already?)
19:14:40
@delroth:delroth.netdelroththere's plenty of alternatives to S3 that could be interesting for our use case, they were not a viable option until recently due the costs it would take to move our data out of S3. Now that Amazon is waving those charges for people leaving their cloud, I know the foundation has been talking with some S3-like services regarding possible sponsorships.19:47:40
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13 Apr 2024
@emma:rory.gay@emma:rory.gay
In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
https://wasabi.com/ has lower network egress charges as far as I can recall, and I wonder if they would be interested in sponsoring and hosting? ( I don't know anyone there directly, and maybe it's been discussed already?)
how about backblaze?
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@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens(removed a comment about backblaze pricing after realizing I don't really know enough numbers to speculate on various object storage providers)03:29:09

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