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9 Apr 2024
	[K]ate Temkin joined the room.	20:46:53
Jonas Chevalier	Ok, I just wanted to share that we reached consensus, after 4h of conversation, and landed on something which I believe is good and represents the community input. Sorry to keep you waiting, we just need a bit more time to draft the announce and share everything, either later today or tomorrow at the latest.	21:08:38
10 Apr 2024
@jonringer:matrix.org	I would also like to note that option 2, people being forced to leave the community, is already happening Yesterday and today, about a dozen people messaged me directly that they were also concerned about this power struggle, but didn't want to speak up out of fear of being doxxed or publicly humiliated like I was. I'm curious how many people have silently left over the years because they don't want to endure harassment, moderation action, or "the drama". I was one of them in 2021.	00:52:16
Arian	In reply to @julienmalka:matrix.org Trust at our core. SOC 2 compliant, because when it comes to sensitive environments, FlakeHub is the backbone. Catering to financial services, industrial automation, and defense, we're engineered for your compliance requirements. This doesn't inspire trust (extract of the detsys website) SOC2 compliance is basically required for any organisation doing IT in the US doing business with any other IT business.	00:57:34
Arian	Fwiw	00:57:37
Arian	(not by law. But by "this is just what you need")	00:57:52
Arian	Ah nevermind. I guess you mean the word "defense". I read over it. ignore what I said	00:58:29
samueldr	I'm curious how many people silently left over the yearse because they don't want to endure harrassment, moderation inaction, or "the drama"...	01:10:58
samueldr	thankfully the moderation inaction issue started being handled	01:11:36
samueldr	* I'm curious how many people silently left over the years because they don't want to endure harrassment, moderation inaction, or "the drama"...	03:43:41
hexa	In reply to @jonringer:matrix.org I would also like to note that option 2, people being forced to leave the community, is already happening Yesterday and today, about a dozen people messaged me directly that they were also concerned about this power struggle, but didn't want to speak up out of fear of being doxxed or publicly humiliated like I was. I'm curious how many people have silently left over the years because they don't want to endure harassment, moderation action, or "the drama". I was one of them in 2021. Jon, where you work is something people can easily find out, because you published it to LinkedIn. And asking to become board observer while at the same time leading a discussion on gender minority representation in the sponsorship selection committee was bound to generate that kind of reaction. And Ron did ask to focus on the bigger picture, instead of picking out individual comments, which you yourself decided to disregard.	09:02:50
infinisil	https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-event-sponsorship-policy/43110	10:45:29
hexa	pinned for the day	11:04:00
@jonringer:matrix.org	Jon, where you work is something people can easily find out, because you published it to LinkedIn. Although true, it also implies investigation into my life beyond the Nix ecosystem. And asking to become board observer while at the same time leading a discussion on gender minority representation in the sponsorship selection committee was bound to generate that kind of reaction. I don't think there's a voice for "keep Nix about technology" portion of the community. And Ron did ask to focus on the bigger picture, instead of picking out individual comments, which you yourself decided to disregard. I did frame it the larger picture in https://discourse.nixos.org/t/objection-to-explicit-gender-minority-preference-in-nixos-sponsorship-policy/42968 having seats for groups that are not “first priority is the success of Nix”, but rather “first priority is the success of your faction” is a mis-aligned incentive model for a software project.	13:13:41
@jonringer:matrix.org	To avoid bringing down this channel, I'll move any further commentary to discourse	13:14:31
delroth	I don't think there's a voice for "keep Nix about technology" portion of the community. You don't get to claim that when you're complaining you can't bring politics (military sponsorships) into the project. Everyone was very happy not having to deal with this until it was forced onto the community.	13:20:53
delroth	* I don't think there's a voice for "keep Nix about technology" portion of the community. You don't get to claim that when you're also complaining you can't bring politics (military sponsorships) into the project. Everyone was very happy not having to deal with this until it was forced onto the community.	13:21:03
hexa	I don't think there's a voice for "keep Nix about technology" portion of the community. It is my impression that we have these kinds of voice in the foundation board already	13:21:05
hexa	* I don't think there's a voice for "keep Nix about technology" portion of the community. It is my impression that we have these kinds of voices in the foundation board already	13:21:13
patka	(Although I find this interpretation of doxing debatable, considering nothing is private, I simply heard it from someone else and was sufficiently annoyed. No investigation or crusade ever took place. I apologized privately, talked with the mods and asked them to remove the post. Using this as some sort of defense, is disingenious at best)	13:23:56
@jonringer:matrix.org	It is my impression that we have these kinds of voices in the foundation board already Yes, but it's creating a "board vs community" narrative. E.g. Everyone was very happy not having to deal with this until it was forced onto the community.	13:25:25
delroth	Yes, the whole problem is that the board took a politically loaded action by accepting an Anduril sponsorship. A board focused on "keeping Nix about technology" would have easily seen the loss of community trust and contributors that such a politically loaded action would lead to and taken the neutral stance of rejecting a political sponsor.	13:28:03
patka	Redacted or Malformed Event	13:28:33
@jonringer:matrix.org	I think this would be better continued on discourse	13:29:03

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