| 11 Mar 2024 |
 Shalok Shalom | Redacted or Malformed Event | 19:42:52 |
| Shalok Shalom | You find a bit of information starting with that message ^ | 19:43:12 |
| Shalok Shalom | In reply to @mangoiv.:matrix.org
Hey guys! Seeing that Anduril is once again sponsor of a NixOS foundation event, I would like to know where and how the decision to accept sponsorship of „these kinds of companies“ have been made. For NixCon 2023 I remember there to have been quite the debate and the foundation promised to work out guidelines for such situations, so I would like to know where and how this has been conducted and what results have been achieved. Thanks in advance! :) . | 19:43:27 |
| Shalok Shalom | * You find a bit of information starting with that message: | 19:43:46 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | right - my question is a bit broader than just nixcon, and I'm also mainly looking for an answer from the Foundation itself | 19:45:13 |
 @theophane:hufschmitt.net | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
can the Foundation clarify what the current relationships with Anduril are, if any? Anduril is a sponsor of NixCon, and they donate to the documentation project on OpenCollective | 19:47:03 |
 raitobezarius | NixCon NA to be precise | 19:47:30 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | In reply to @theophane:hufschmitt.net
Anduril is a sponsor of NixCon, and they donate to the documentation project on OpenCollective thanks. and that's the full extent of the relationships? | 20:04:19 |
| @theophane:hufschmitt.net | Yes | 20:06:44 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | alright, thanks for the clarification | 20:07:13 |
 MangoIV | Has there been a protocol somewhere about why Anduril has been decided to comply with the interim sponsorship policy? | 20:36:24 |
| MangoIV | It’s not entirely clear to me. | 20:36:31 |
 mei 🌒& | I think the best we have is https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-meeting-minutes-2024-01-02-2024-02-03/39994#h-2024-02-03-foundation-board-in-person-fosdem-21 | 20:38:15 |
| MangoIV | I have seen this. Thank you :) it doesn’t answer my question that’s why I wondered whether there would be more information. | 20:39:11 |
 tomberek | I can help answer in DM or in this thread, as you wish. The closest thing to a codified policy is the discussion in matrix, followed by the resulting sponsorship policy proposal. I can also walk through the sequence of events. | 20:39:29 |
| MangoIV | Thank you I think the proposal is great, I just wonder how it has been decided that Anduril fulfils the requirements. | 20:41:06 |
| mei 🌒& | tomberek: Publicly please. | 20:47:32 |
 patka | There is not really much to oppose or question from my side. I just very much disagree with taking such a sponsor. So all I can do is remove donations to the Nix foundation | 20:48:57 |
| Shalok Shalom | In reply to @patka_123:matrix.org
There is not really much to oppose or question from my side. I just very much disagree with taking such a sponsor. So all I can do is remove donations to the Nix foundation I understand not liking, and not wanting to support such a company. | 20:51:48 |
| Shalok Shalom | Do you think, taking their money plays into that or is it purely a principle, to distance yourself so far as possible from them? | 20:52:22 |
| Shalok Shalom | Or do you see real life benefits for them, if we take the money? | 20:52:35 |
| patka | I'm not really interested in a philosophical back and forth, sorry | 20:53:23 |
| Shalok Shalom | thanks | 20:53:35 |
| Shalok Shalom | I think we all can agree, that it can make a bad light, when people discuss this within the open source community. | 20:55:50 |
| Shalok Shalom | Has this been taken under consideration? | 20:56:02 |
| patka | In reply to @shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.org
Has this been taken under consideration? What are you implying? Discussing what? And why in a bad light? | 20:56:37 |
| Shalok Shalom | Well, other open source communities and their contributors could see it critical, and consider NixOS a bad, unethical community or something. | 20:57:30 |
| Shalok Shalom | And that could be a call, we wouldnt loose for a while. | 20:57:41 |
| Shalok Shalom | "The arms dealer OS" or something like that. I think that would be a real consequence to consider. | 20:58:14 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | would they be wrong in considering it as such, if these are the decisions that are made? surely we are more concerned about the actual ethical situation of our community, than about 'keeping up appearances'? | 20:58:28 |
