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16 Mar 2024
@cabalcrow:matrix.orgCabalCrowoh it handles the installers too? Thanks12:45:25
@terraca:matrix.orgterraca
In reply to @janik0:matrix.org
not really I think :')
we probably should add that to: https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/blob/master/role_and_responsibilities.md

I think it's important to clearly define the authority and duties of board observers. Specifically, I believe that board observers should shoulder the responsibility of establishing the ethical framework guiding decisions linked to the NixOS brand. Initially, it might be beneficial to engage the moderation team as consultants for these board observers.

This would allow board members to focus on their core responsibilities, entrusting ethical judgments to the board observers. Additionally, this could alleviate the burden on Eelco by transferring the obligation to define the Foundation's ethical standards to the observers.

As a result, board observers, along with moderators, are established as the primary ethical arbiters for the NixOS community.

12:48:16
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianHave we considered perhaps adding a vereniging with members? I'm not sure how easy it is to do internationally. But it means people outside of the board have a lot more actual influence on things12:53:54
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas Chevalier
In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
there aren't a ton of people lined up but the foundation is also kinda set up in a way where there's no on-ramp for anyone to even consider lining up - the observer position is the only way people external to the board even get included, and IIRC that position was only created because "someone external" (who could that be? :P) was very insistent
How did you manage this in your other organization? I was the first observer, then Ryan, and now Janik. That's 100% of the people that asked. I remember it took a while to get Ryan on board but because we had other priority items and we meet every 2 weeks (sorry Ryan). The reason I setup the repo with the issue tracker is because I was hoping that more people would jump in, and that didn't exactly happen. Recently Theophane has been pushing to publish our meeting minutes. I setup the unblock friday (which is a bit dead at the moment). We have the community calls. I don't know exactly what else we could do to be more open.
19:08:29
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas Chevalier
In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
Dunno, maybe, but both for our account at ABN AMRO (very... traditional bank) and Wise everything was in the name of the Stichting and they didn't need updates when board composition changed. (With roughly the same order of magnitude in assets in the bank account as the NixOS foundation.)
It takes a few weeks to give members access to the banking system. Especially if the members live outside of the netherlands. But this can be limited to the secretary and the director. Not every member needs that.
19:12:50
@ronef:matrix.orgronefI want to also call out that in Janik's case that was quite fast. There was a self nomination and he joined the following call quite quickly19:17:50
@ronef:matrix.orgronefGoing back to the meeting for Wednesday, made a quick agenda here - https://pad.lassul.us/Y2uJQWJkRr6Hcz6-s3YkDg19:18:01
@ronef:matrix.orgronefMaybe we can start collecting all notes/proposals in there?19:18:50
@ronef:matrix.orgronefThe more pre-reads the more we can complete on the call19:19:12
@piegames:matrix.org@piegames:matrix.org
In reply to @ronef:matrix.org
I want to also call out that in Janik's case that was quite fast. There was a self nomination and he joined the following call quite quickly
s/he/they/
19:19:14
@ronef:matrix.orgronef * I want to also call out that in Janik's case that was quite fast. There was a self nomination and they joined the following call quite quickly19:19:26
@ronef:matrix.orgronefSorry, phone typing as I'm at the NixOS Booth. Thanks for correcting 19:20:07
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