| 13 Mar 2024 |
 delroth | as a reminder, https://discourse.nixos.org/t/community-calendar/18589/118 should be starting now-ish | 16:00:23 |
 piegames | I'd like to note that the lassul.us Jitsi is configured to not have a lobby before joining, which is a bad fit for meetings, especially of this size | 16:12:09 |
| piegames | (Also maybe there should be a proper NixOS Jitsi instead of just using random other instances?) | 16:12:32 |
 Julien | If someone has 2mn could they open an issue on nixos/infra, not able to do it right now and will after if not done and if I don’t forget | 16:26:03 |
 Janik (they/them) | In reply to @julienmalka:matrix.org
If someone has 2mn could they open an issue on nixos/infra, not able to do it right now and will after if not done and if I don’t forget https://github.com/NixOS/infra/issues/401 | 16:55:02 |
| delroth | takeaway from the foundation board call: we do actually have a nixos governance process! if you file an issue on a random tracker and it stays unacknowledged for 3 months with no comments from anyone, it's made into official policy | 17:09:15 |
| delroth | even if there's 100s of discourse posts from 3 months before that go completely against it - it's fine to ignore those | 17:10:04 |
 patka | Time to reconsider spending my time here, I guess | 17:19:40 |
| Janik (they/them) | In reply to @patka_123:matrix.org
Time to reconsider spending my time here, I guess +1, I'm very disappointed with how that turned out. | 17:21:06 |
| Janik (they/them) | for anyone curious: https://pad.lassul.us/ustvshbjQAKOxmj5JsPLvQ?edit# here are the meeting notes | 17:23:48 |
 tomberek | This is not true. That "random tracker" is the official Foundation repo. This was announced in the Matrix channel specifically set aside to resolve this issue. | 17:24:46 |
| patka | Yes, yet is was a very problematic issue. So not even a single word on any of the discussion places about it actually being used is quite... not smart? | 17:26:35 |
| delroth | damn ok then I guess everyone was in agreement with the policy after all | 17:26:44 |
| patka | Good job selling out the community and negating all the concerns for a meager 5K. Good job! | 17:27:26 |
| tomberek | That is understandable. And I really do think we should further refine policy. And I can recommend ways to do it to achieve what I think you want to.
- "MIC" is really poorly defined. (eg: some consider Anduril to be a challenge and disruption to the MIC). It is also a term often specific to the US.
- The Zivilklausel as a policy + procedure is not a bad starting point because they have had so much time to clarify what it means and how they think about it.
- Don't only think about this particular incident. We have more dilemmas on the horizon: AI, corporate involvement, rise of non-free licenses, to name a few.
| 17:30:54 |
| tomberek | ( personally, I am not in favor of this specific change, but at least I can recommend a productive way to go about it ) | 17:32:54 |
| piegames | No dogpiling and no snark please | 17:32:54 |
| patka | Alright no snark. If it is about money, if I send the foundation 5K right now, will that buy me the spot instead of Anduril? | 17:34:16 |
| patka | Alright no snark. If it is about money, if I send the foundation 5K right now, will that buy me the spot instead of Anduril? (serious) | 17:34:27 |
