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27 Apr 2024
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town(this applies to other board members too in principle but I have not observed this behaviour from them)13:25:36
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.townthose two things are just fundamentally incompatible if you want community governance13:26:26
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@niksnut:matrix.orgEelco
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
there needs to be no uncertainty, no doubt, whatsoever, that a decision made within a team is going to remain unchallenged
Then let's be consistent with that: if (say) the NixCon NA team accepts a certain sponsor, nobody challenges that?
I also would like to know what team decisions board members have interfered with.
13:41:33
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.townhave you read a word of what I've said?13:42:18
@yorickvp:matrix.orgyorickvp
In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
there are many ways to solve that, but one thing that is certain is that as long as eelco both holds a position of (board) authority and abrasively butts into decisionmaking procedures, we will not have functioning community governance
I don't think the board authority is as much of a problem as the implicit authority that comes with being the BDFL. If we don't want a BDFL, I think we should say so explicitly and not act like we have one (on all sides).
13:53:25
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth) joined the room.13:55:09
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.townBDFL is maybe a better description, yes13:56:07
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.townbut the board is still the one who holds the legal authority in the end13:56:28
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.townand so a declaration to that effect would still need to involve them13:56:47
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town
In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org
Then let's be consistent with that: if (say) the NixCon NA team accepts a certain sponsor, nobody challenges that?
I also would like to know what team decisions board members have interfered with.
so the thing with this is that I would be more inclined to answer questions if they weren't a question that was answered several messages ago, and a question that a reference (namely the open letter) was already provided for
13:58:19
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town
In reply to @niksnut:matrix.org
Then let's be consistent with that: if (say) the NixCon NA team accepts a certain sponsor, nobody challenges that?
I also would like to know what team decisions board members have interfered with.
* so the thing with this is that I would be more inclined to answer questions if they weren't a question that was literally answered several messages ago, and a question that a reference (namely the open letter) was already provided for
13:58:33

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