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infinisil | I've drafted an RFC to use a new canonical domain (I'm proposing nix.dev, but there's alternatives to consider) for all official resources, please take a look and give feedback via issues or PRs: https://github.com/nix-rfc-canonical-domain/rfcs/blob/canonical-domain/rfcs/1000-canonical-domain.md | 21:52:11 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | 🎉 Congratulations, you have made the 1000th RFC, you win a minute of free technical review! | 21:53:42 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | :p | 21:53:44 |
Arian | I think nixos is an escort website. Not a porn website | 22:12:31 |
infinisil | Arian: Haha thanks, will correct it | 22:37:42 |
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raitobezarius | FWIW, https://sleepmap.de/2023/operating-system-bias-in-next-generation-internet-and-nlnet/ | 13:00:30 |
raitobezarius | (Also, full disclosure, I was reached out by David and some Archlinux folks regarding this and I did say what I knew about NLnet on this matter) | 13:07:29 |
Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | Hmm, so suddenly it's not okay for someone to fund something that they're convinced is better and that anything else is already too far behind and would be a waste of their money? | 19:15:49 |
Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | I like to believe that the grants are given on the bases of meritocracy and NGI and NLnet just see Arch as a waste of their time because (in their mind) they already have a better technology to push forward and fund (Nix) | 19:17:53 |
Arian | But that _is_ a political position so I'm fine with somebody calling it out | 19:19:44 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | I had a conversation with the author on fedi, and the concern seems to be that funding would be disproportionately allocated to Nix projects due to (some perception of) the NixOS Foundation having backchannel access to NGI via a 'partnership' | 19:19:40 |
Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | * I like to believe that the grants are given on the bases of meritocracy and NGI and NLnet just see Arch as a waste of their time and money because (in their mind) they already have a better technology to push forward and fund (Nix) | 19:19:46 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | (as opposed to the funding being allocated based on merit) | 19:19:59 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | well, that, and more broadly issues with a lack of upfront communication about the selection criteria and what does and doesn't qualify for funding, or why | 19:21:20 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | (which is a valid complaint IMO) | 19:21:30 |
Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | It might not be fully based on merit. I just know that if I'm convinced that Nix is the superior technology, why would I fund something that I think is fundamentally flawed? That very much could be how NGI and NLNet feel. | 19:21:54 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | it could be, but the author's frustration is understandable in that they do not seem to specify this anywhere | 19:22:24 |
Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | I guess, I mean I don't think they should specify that they like Nix | 19:23:26 |
problems | well like, this boils down to preferences of individuals in the orgs. on its face the funding is impartial, but if in reality it doesn't accurately reflect the community around it then that should be addressed | 19:23:47 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | if this is indeed the case (and I suspect it is, given the circumstances, but don't know for sure), it would probably be a good idea for NGI to flatly state "we are unlikely to accept funding applications for package managers that are not built around a Nix-like model, as we believe that a Nix-like model is an important component of our broader goals" | 19:23:48 |
@joepie91:pixie.town | or something along those lines | 19:23:59 |