| 2 Apr 2024 |
Wimpy | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org Wimpy: What Framework enablement are we looking for? Matt said Framework Laptop 16 first, then Framework Laptop 13 to follow since the 16 is super set of the 13 in terms of hardware support.
What they are requesting is documentation/wiki maintained by the NixOS community that clearly describes how to fully enable/configure NixOS for the AMD base Framework 16 and 13. Matt cited the Arch Linux wiki pages for Framework 16 and 13 as good examples of the detail required. No mention of coreboot yet.
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raitobezarius | in exchange of laptops for that? | 14:43:26 |
raitobezarius | that seems a sweet deal | 14:43:28 |
raitobezarius | https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware/tree/master/framework FWIW | 14:43:59 |
raitobezarius | If I had to make a proposal, I don't think it's a particularly hard task and if they are willing to offer a Framework laptop to take ownership of that, I would suggest that we look in our community for marginalized folks who may not afford a laptop and may need one | 14:44:31 |
raitobezarius | That's also an interesting exercise for community to figure out the process for this | 14:44:46 |
Janik (they/them) | In reply to @wimpress:matrix.org
Matt said Framework Laptop 16 first, then Framework Laptop 13 to follow since the 16 is super set of the 13 in terms of hardware support.
What they are requesting is documentation/wiki maintained by the NixOS community that clearly describes how to fully enable/configure NixOS for the AMD base Framework 16 and 13. Matt cited the Arch Linux wiki pages for Framework 16 and 13 as good examples of the detail required. No mention of coreboot yet.
Do you know if they would be interested in having official preinstalled nixos images? | 14:44:58 |
raitobezarius | I don't think Framework does preinstalled Linux | 14:45:12 |
raitobezarius | I think it creates tax issues | 14:45:23 |
Alyssa Ross | tax issues? | 14:45:28 |
raitobezarius | (so they won't if I'm not wrong) | 14:45:34 |
raitobezarius | In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space tax issues? I think they sell the whole laptop as detached pieces | 14:46:00 |
raitobezarius | Instead of a whole laptop | 14:46:02 |
raitobezarius | Yeah, a quick Google search with those keywords seems to show folks speculating about that, I don't see any official communication, but this is plausible | 14:47:33 |
raitobezarius | (but there's clear communication that Framework won't offer preinstalled Linux until they revisit this though they 'want to do that') | 14:47:47 |
@patka_123:matrix.org | That is not true. You can buy a built laptop from Framework | 14:48:21 |
Alyssa Ross | with windows | 14:48:42 |
Alyssa Ross | we're getting a bit OT though | 14:49:03 |
raitobezarius | I stand corrected then | 14:49:16 |
raitobezarius | https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/13xe449/comment/jmhc2b2/ 10 months ago | 14:49:41 |
Wimpy | In reply to @janik0:matrix.org Do you know if they would be interested in having official preinstalled nixos images? I am sure they would love that, but it hasn't been discussed. They like the idea of something like hardware.framework.<model>.enable = true; | 14:51:13 |
raitobezarius | So in the past @Mic92 had nixos-hardware inside of nixpkgs | 14:51:39 |
tomberek | Doc team has been trying to establish the new wiki, so it would be good to include them. | 14:51:55 |
raitobezarius | so you could do something like imports = [ "${modulesPath}/laptop/framework/13-inch" ]; | 14:51:55 |
raitobezarius | and have the hardware stuff for your laptop done | 14:52:06 |
raitobezarius | Maybe, we could revisit nixos-hardware merging in nixpkgs, and we could have someone work on auto-detection of existing hardware profile at nixos-generate-config time | 14:52:42 |
raitobezarius | so you would have nothing to do | 14:52:46 |
@patka_123:matrix.org | (should we make a channel for this? I'd like to help, but don't need the laptop. I think we are not in foundation territory anymore and should move this discussion :)) | 14:52:52 |
Wimpy | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org that seems a sweet deal In my experience of working with OEMs, they are also looking for some sort of validation that all the hardware works as expected and power saving targets are met. | 14:53:11 |
raitobezarius | there's one foundation question here is that: does Framework need to establish a discussion with the Foundation for this? | 14:53:12 |