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2 Apr 2024
@wimpress:matrix.orgWimpy
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
Wimpy: What Framework enablement are we looking for?

Matt said Framework Laptop 16 first, then Framework Laptop 13 to follow since the 16 is super set of the 13 in terms of hardware support.

What they are requesting is documentation/wiki maintained by the NixOS community that clearly describes how to fully enable/configure NixOS for the AMD base Framework 16 and 13. Matt cited the Arch Linux wiki pages for Framework 16 and 13 as good examples of the detail required. No mention of coreboot yet.

14:42:32
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusin exchange of laptops for that?14:43:26
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthat seems a sweet deal14:43:28
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariushttps://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware/tree/master/framework FWIW14:43:59
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIf I had to make a proposal, I don't think it's a particularly hard task and if they are willing to offer a Framework laptop to take ownership of that, I would suggest that we look in our community for marginalized folks who may not afford a laptop and may need one14:44:31
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThat's also an interesting exercise for community to figure out the process for this14:44:46
@janik0:matrix.orgJanik (they/them)
In reply to @wimpress:matrix.org

Matt said Framework Laptop 16 first, then Framework Laptop 13 to follow since the 16 is super set of the 13 in terms of hardware support.

What they are requesting is documentation/wiki maintained by the NixOS community that clearly describes how to fully enable/configure NixOS for the AMD base Framework 16 and 13. Matt cited the Arch Linux wiki pages for Framework 16 and 13 as good examples of the detail required. No mention of coreboot yet.

Do you know if they would be interested in having official preinstalled nixos images?
14:44:58
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI don't think Framework does preinstalled Linux14:45:12
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI think it creates tax issues14:45:23
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rosstax issues?14:45:28
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(so they won't if I'm not wrong)14:45:34
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @qyliss:fairydust.space
tax issues?
I think they sell the whole laptop as detached pieces
14:46:00
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusInstead of a whole laptop14:46:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusYeah, a quick Google search with those keywords seems to show folks speculating about that, I don't see any official communication, but this is plausible14:47:33
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(but there's clear communication that Framework won't offer preinstalled Linux until they revisit this though they 'want to do that')14:47:47
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org That is not true. You can buy a built laptop from Framework 14:48:21
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rosswith windows14:48:42
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rosswe're getting a bit OT though14:49:03
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI stand corrected then14:49:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariushttps://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/13xe449/comment/jmhc2b2/ 10 months ago14:49:41
@wimpress:matrix.orgWimpy
In reply to @janik0:matrix.org
Do you know if they would be interested in having official preinstalled nixos images?
I am sure they would love that, but it hasn't been discussed. They like the idea of something like hardware.framework.<model>.enable = true;
14:51:13
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius So in the past @Mic92 had nixos-hardware inside of nixpkgs 14:51:39
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekDoc team has been trying to establish the new wiki, so it would be good to include them.14:51:55
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius so you could do something like imports = [ "${modulesPath}/laptop/framework/13-inch" ]; 14:51:55
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusand have the hardware stuff for your laptop done14:52:06
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius Maybe, we could revisit nixos-hardware merging in nixpkgs, and we could have someone work on auto-detection of existing hardware profile at nixos-generate-config time 14:52:42
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius so you would have nothing to do 14:52:46
@patka_123:matrix.org@patka_123:matrix.org (should we make a channel for this? I'd like to help, but don't need the laptop. I think we are not in foundation territory anymore and should move this discussion :)) 14:52:52
@wimpress:matrix.orgWimpy
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
that seems a sweet deal
In my experience of working with OEMs, they are also looking for some sort of validation that all the hardware works as expected and power saving targets are met.
14:53:11
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthere's one foundation question here is that: does Framework need to establish a discussion with the Foundation for this?14:53:12

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