| 18 Mar 2024 |
 Janik (they/them) | (also a potential mentee asked if there is any devenv related work which is why domen handed in a devenv related idea) | 14:42:31 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | oh, I got it mixed up with season of docs I think: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/season-of-docs-gsoc-for-documentation/2402 | 14:43:48 |
| Janik (they/them) | In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
What makes devenv a commercial project though? It's backed by cachix | 14:44:57 |
| Janik (they/them) | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
oh, I got it mixed up with season of docs I think: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/season-of-docs-gsoc-for-documentation/2402 Don't know how the docs counter part handles it. It might also be important to note that GSoC only pays participants but not mentors. In general I agree that it's preferable to work on projects that are directly related to the nixos org but afaik we don't have a hard cap on participants so I don't see a problem with helping nix community projects. | 15:00:10 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | I mean, I don't have an issue with non-NixOS-org projects in and of itself, just specifically with ones that already receive funding | 15:01:58 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | * I mean, I don't have an issue with non-NixOS-org projects in and of itself, just specifically with ones that already receive funding [within a certain definition] | 15:02:15 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | on the premise that the funding is better spent on things that otherwise have no chance of happening | 15:02:28 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | if it is added specifically because someone requested to work on it, I am not sure how that fits into this exactly | 15:02:46 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | * if it is added specifically because someone requested to work on it, I am not sure how that fits into this rationale exactly | 15:05:31 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | maybe a better way to describe it, would be that I wouldn't want the GSoC funding to become a way for NixOS-adjacent companies to save a buck on their own investment, when that money could have gone to things that they would never have put money into to begin with | 15:06:25 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | (ie. if that is not the case, then I have no issue with it) | 15:09:57 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | * (ie. if that is not the case, regardless of which part of that description doesn't hold up, then I have no issue with it) | 15:10:19 |
| Janik (they/them) |
if it is added specifically because someone requested to work on it, I am not sure how that fits into this rationale exactly
it's encouraged by GSoC for people to suggest their own ideas if they don't find anything that interests them in the already listed ideas.
| 15:14:53 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | right | 15:15:10 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | it sounds like in this case my concern might not apply, then | 15:15:24 |
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|  alexou changed their display name from alexou to Alex Ou. | 16:42:25 |
 ronef | FWIW, I feel aligned with joepie91 🏳️🌈 . This is also our first year with the program so I don't have much experience with it. If we feel it would be helpful I can ask a few other communities who might have been doing the program for longer for their approach to it. | 18:25:59 |
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| Janik (they/them) | In reply to @ronef:matrix.org
FWIW, I feel aligned with joepie91 🏳️🌈 . This is also our first year with the program so I don't have much experience with it. If we feel it would be helpful I can ask a few other communities who might have been doing the program for longer for their approach to it. a reasonable policy might be something like:
- You have to suggest ideas for a Nix/OS project or Nix-Community Project that otherwise wouldn't get worked on.
- But it's fine to submit a idea for a Nix Project with a commercial touch if a potential participant specifically suggests it (as long as it fits the other criteria like being OSS and closely related to the nix-community are given)
| 19:20:57 |
 Jonas Chevalier | There is a question of what falls within the scope of the project, but overall I think the focus should be on finding capable mentors, and more importantly that the students are having a good experience and hopefully become our star contributors of tomorrow. Most of the time, my understanding is that GSoC is more work for the mentor and the quality of contributions are those of a junior. I wouldn't count this exactly as free work. | 20:33:07 |
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| 19 Mar 2024 |
|  NixOS Moderation Botchanged room power levels. | 00:29:53 |
| Janik (they/them) | Is there already a announcement for the open board call tomorrow? I didn't see a discourse post yet, but maybe I missed it. | 19:39:37 |
| ronef | Just a reminder that tomorrow is the open board call regarding the sponsorship discussion - https://discourse.nixos.org/t/community-calendar/18589/118?u=ron
I put a few agenda items here but feel free to add and we will have free form https://pad.lassul.us/Y2uJQWJkRr6Hcz6-s3YkDg | 21:37:21 |
| 20 Mar 2024 |
 terraca | In reply to @ronef:matrix.org
Just a reminder that tomorrow is the open board call regarding the sponsorship discussion - https://discourse.nixos.org/t/community-calendar/18589/118?u=ron
I put a few agenda items here but feel free to add and we will have free form https://pad.lassul.us/Y2uJQWJkRr6Hcz6-s3YkDg If you don't mind, I've added a new item to the agenda. For context, see this message:
https://matrix.to/#/!VyoUhyWvlhSpFWWxHL:matrix.org/$hxEL2fW6lr_W-0RkF2jmC3rL5jolH2U6eve6s1mxZ-o?via=nixos.org&via=matrix.org&via=katesiria.org
| 01:31:25 |
 delroth | In reply to @terraca:matrix.org
If you don't mind, I've added a new item to the agenda. For context, see this message:
https://matrix.to/#/!VyoUhyWvlhSpFWWxHL:matrix.org/$hxEL2fW6lr_W-0RkF2jmC3rL5jolH2U6eve6s1mxZ-o?via=nixos.org&via=matrix.org&via=katesiria.org
can we please not entertain the anonymous trolls / sockpuppets and waste time? | 01:35:43 |
 hexa | falaichte literally means hidden, obscured, disguised, concealed | 01:37:00 |
| hexa | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/falaichte | 01:37:03 |
| delroth | hexa: I mean, you're the one holding the banhammer, just sayin' :p | 01:37:26 |
