In reply to @ronef:matrix.org
Personally I'm open to having more folks join the meetings if it can diversify the perspective to a better extent

In reply to @terraca:matrix.org
I'm glad to hear that! I'm curious, however, about the roles and authorities of a board observer. Do they possess the ability to substitute a board member? I would be grateful if someone could direct me to a document detailing their powers and responsibilities. Thank you in advance.

In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
The way to go about this is to add regular board rotation. We still have a bunch of paperwork to fill so it's not a cheap operation, and we need to find a replacement. It's not like we have a ton of people lined up to work in that area.

In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
The way to go about this is to add regular board rotation. We still have a bunch of paperwork to fill so it's not a cheap operation, and we need to find a replacement. It's not like we have a ton of people lined up to work in that area.

In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
The way to go about this is to add regular board rotation. We still have a bunch of paperwork to fill so it's not a cheap operation, and we need to find a replacement. It's not like we have a ton of people lined up to work in that area.

In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
(note that a board member change in the foundation is a lot of paperwork and complexity either way due to how foundations work here - doesn't mean there can't be something more participatory, but an on-ramp would likely have to be informal)

In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
(note that a board member change in the foundation is a lot of paperwork and complexity either way due to how foundations work here - doesn't mean there can't be something more participatory, but an on-ramp would likely have to be informal)

In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
Sure, but that relies on the assumption that only board members can do foundation work, or at least that only the work that can be done only by board members serves as an on-ramp to being a board member. In my experience participating in non-profits: that's not true.

In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
(also, is it a lot of paperwork? I was the secretary for a dutch Stichting until like 3 months ago, iirc the only paperwork is sending a protocol and updating the kvk listing - possibly providing a passport scan if the new board member isn't already in the right database? I guess depending on the amount of credentials sharing you might need to rotate those. Am I missing anything else?)

In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town
often the complexity is in dealing with banks and the like, which often also require you to file updates and can be considerably more difficult about it than the kvk

In reply to @janik0:matrix.org
not really I think :')
we probably should add that to: https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/blob/master/role_and_responsibilities.md

I think it's important to clearly define the authority and duties of board observers. Specifically, I believe that board observers should shoulder the responsibility of establishing the ethical framework guiding decisions linked to the NixOS brand. Initially, it might be beneficial to engage the moderation team as consultants for these board observers.

This would allow board members to focus on their core responsibilities, entrusting ethical judgments to the board observers. Additionally, this could alleviate the burden on Eelco by transferring the obligation to define the Foundation's ethical standards to the observers.

As a result, board observers, along with moderators, are established as the primary ethical arbiters for the NixOS community.

In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
there aren't a ton of people lined up but the foundation is also kinda set up in a way where there's no on-ramp for anyone to even consider lining up - the observer position is the only way people external to the board even get included, and IIRC that position was only created because "someone external" (who could that be? :P) was very insistent

In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
Dunno, maybe, but both for our account at ABN AMRO (very... traditional bank) and Wise everything was in the name of the Stichting and they didn't need updates when board composition changed. (With roughly the same order of magnitude in assets in the bank account as the NixOS foundation.)