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| Sender | Message | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 13 Mar 2024 | ||
 @patka_123:matrix.org | Good job selling out the community and negating all the concerns for a meager 5K. Good job! | 17:27:26 |
 tomberek | That is understandable. And I really do think we should further refine policy. And I can recommend ways to do it to achieve what I think you want to.
| 17:30:54 |
| tomberek | ( personally, I am not in favor of this specific change, but at least I can recommend a productive way to go about it ) | 17:32:54 |
 @piegames:matrix.org | No dogpiling and no snark please | 17:32:54 |
| @patka_123:matrix.org | Alright no snark. If it is about money, if I send the foundation 5K right now, will that buy me the spot instead of Anduril? | 17:34:16 |
| @patka_123:matrix.org | Alright no snark. If it is about money, if I send the foundation 5K right now, will that buy me the spot instead of Anduril? (serious) | 17:34:27 |
 delroth | maybe people would be more willing to engage with your theoretical discussions about defining exact multi-dimensional ethical boundaries if 1. the easy decisions weren't already being botched (Anduril being reconsidered as a sponsor when all the evidence points to the community not being ok with that); 2. the foundation chair wasn't on the record saying they oppose having to make any decision based on criteria other than legality? | 17:39:11 |
| delroth | * maybe people would be more willing to engage with your theoretical discussions about defining exact multi-dimensional ethical boundaries if 1. the easy decisions weren't already being botched (Anduril being reconsidered as a sponsor when all the evidence points to the community not being ok with that); 2. the foundation chair wasn't on the record saying they oppose having to make any decision based on criteria other than legality? | 17:39:37 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | In reply to @patka_123:matrix.orgProfpatsch made a similar offer at last NixCon. Not sure if it was taken seriously | 17:40:28 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | I mean, being gold sponsor for an entire conference, as an individual, for only 5k … tempting indeed | 17:41:00 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | question to the Foundation: where can I find the formal statutes? | 18:04:14 |
 @ultranix:matrix.org joined the room. | 18:04:37 | |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | ie. those filed with the KvK or such | 18:04:38 |
 Janik (they/them) | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.townI don't think they are public and you have to pay the kvk. | 18:05:57 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | I mean, I can do that, but I figured I'd ask first in case I missed a link, as a lot of organizations do publish their statutes on their own site | 18:06:43 |
| tomberek | I'd be happy to send an invoice to add an individual to the sponsor list. Our SCALE hosts have handled the invoicing and actual transfers. Contact us with where to send it. Thanks! We should be above budget and anything extra should go back to the Foundation. | 18:09:44 |
| Janik (they/them) | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.orgDoes this include dropping anduril as patka asked in the message above? | 18:12:26 |
| @patka_123:matrix.org | In reply to @tomberek:matrix.orgIt would've been nice if you actually replied to the entire question. | 18:12:41 |
| @ultranix:matrix.org | He said he doesn't want them to be in the position of moral arbiter, which is a completely reasonable stance | 18:13:41 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | (as a general note, foundations in the Netherlands are legally bound to their purpose as defined in the statutes) | 18:14:37 |
| tomberek | No, sponsorship is not exclusive. Having one sponsor demand to exclude another is not appropriate. We have multiple competitors simultaneously sponsor. | 18:17:52 |
| delroth | If you think that's a reasonable stance for the foundation's chair then I think it's also a very reasonable stance for me to hold that the foundation's board should be replaced with people who accept that they are in a position of moral arbiter. | 18:27:11 |
| delroth | and let's not forget that the board didn't refuse to make a decision, the board decided that Anduril was an ok sponsor to have for NixCon NA | 18:28:14 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town for completeness. this is my translation of the goal of the Foundation as it is defined in the statutes:
| 18:36:17 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | In reply to @joepie91:pixie.town* for completeness. this is my translation of the goal of the Foundation as it is defined in the statutes:
| 18:36:24 |
| @piegames:matrix.org | In reply to @kaywerty:fnord.theinfinitycorporation.comThis is not constructive | 18:36:52 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | especially with the news that apparently the open letter has been signed by enough contributors to be responsible for 25% of the nixpkgs contributions, I question whether the Foundation is meeting its obligations here | 18:38:04 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | (with the obligatory caveat that I am not a certified legal translator) | 18:39:28 |
 K. Werty | In reply to @piegames:matrix.orgThe only intent of the statement is to communicate that this utterly unacceptable. | 18:39:35 |
| K. Werty | Especially with 25% contributers signing a petition? Is NixOS run on "first past the post"? | 18:40:21 |