| 12 May 2024 |
 Janik (they/them) | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
nyanbinary: I mean, yeah that's what it just is. My interest is making this entire thing work out, that's why I spent so of my time on it the past weeks, there's no conflict in there. Or did I misunderstand what a conflict of interest is? You were directly involved in designing the assembly and the application processes which makes this concerning. It's a bit like if a politician would go and say hey we need someone to do service X and then applied with a company owned by their spouse. | 07:38:27 |
 Arian | I find this negativity sad. Someone who has taken the time to be heavily involved in this process sounds particularly suitable as a member of the assembly to me.
The whole point is to set up governance process no? Then I want applicants who are heavily passionate about the governance process.
I don't see a conflict of interest at all. The opposite actually. | 07:47:08 |
| Arian | My two cents. Do with that what you want of course. | 07:47:34 |
 nat-418 | The problem was the category of "vouched" itself being unclear. A nomination process would have avoided this whole issue. I fully understand Lunaphied's concerns but I think the reality is that the application format had a design flaw that infinisil innocently stumbled on. I think we can acknowledge this as a design flaw of the process without questioning Silvain's good faith. | 08:09:55 |
 Valodim | I agree it's not a problem :) just don't call them vouches (because "vouching" as usually understood should be segregated from voting processes) and we're good | 08:11:26 |
| Valodim | * I agree it's not a problem :) just don't call them vouches (because "vouching" as usually understood should be segregated from voting roles) and we're good | 08:11:47 |
| nat-418 | Ultimatey the application selection process is a wholly arbitrary fiat, an act of discernment and, put simply, a judgement call. They gave us this process and we have to try and make it work. | 08:13:25 |
| nat-418 | * Ultimately the application selection process is a wholly arbitrary fiat, an act of discernment and, put simply, a judgement call. They gave us this process and we have to try and make it work. | 08:16:04 |
| nat-418 | * Ultimately the application selection process is a wholly arbitrary fiat, an act of discernment and, put simply, a judgement call on the Board's part. They gave us this process and we have to try and make it work. | 08:23:01 |
| nat-418 | * The problem was the category of "vouched" itself being unclear. A nomination process would have avoided this whole issue. I fully understand Lunaphied's concerns but I think the reality is that the application format had a design flaw that infinisil innocently stumbled on. I think we can acknowledge this as a bug in the process without questioning Silvain's good faith. | 10:54:38 |
 ronef | Morning
In an aim to further assure folks.
That section is indeed unclear and the presence of Board Members being on or off that list won't be meaningful for the appointment process. I believe it had an initial intention to potentially serve as a "reference call" of sorts, which we might not have time for regardless.
And therefore if I'm on a list, I will not use myself as a reference call. | 11:56:28 |
 lassulus | hmm, I also send in an application yesterday, but it didn't show up in the stream yet, is there a pre filtering happening or is my mail stuck somewhere? :D | 15:28:11 |
 @theophane:hufschmitt.net | In reply to @lassulus:lassul.us
hmm, I also send in an application yesterday, but it didn't show up in the stream yet, is there a pre filtering happening or is my mail stuck somewhere? :D Apparently yes, a filter called GMail spam filter 😬 | 15:33:30 |
| lassulus | oh noes, yeah gmail sometimes doesn't like my mailserver | 15:33:46 |
| @theophane:hufschmitt.net | Sorry about that, I'll publish your application and make sure I check my spams again in case others arrive | 15:33:59 |
| lassulus | thanks! | 15:34:05 |
| @theophane:hufschmitt.net | Done, https://nixpkgs.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/436732-Constitutional-assembly-applications/topic/Lassulus | 15:36:24 |
 hexa | the 3rd and fourth link are broken and go back to the zulip? | 15:37:47 |
| lassulus | weird | 15:38:17 |
 djacu | I had not read rfc 0173. Thank you for sharing that in your application. | 15:39:21 |
|  NixOS Moderation Bot unbanned  apcodes. | 17:07:25 |
| ronef | We should do another call out that if someone doesn't see their application posted to ping us via Matrix or Zulip to check on it | 17:12:07 |
| hexa | should mention all users on the instance using @all | 17:19:34 |
 @joepie91:pixie.town | (notice: I have sent an application also) | 20:34:41 |
 raitobezarius | AFAIK, Théophane is offline and won't fetch the application until tomorrow FWIW | 20:35:18 |
| ronef | I'll try to fetch them a bit later today (on planes today) | 20:41:09 |
| @joepie91:pixie.town | that's fine, just wanting to make sure it's known about, in case it doesn't make it past the spam filters :) | 20:43:48 |
|  @yuka:yuka.dev joined the room. | 21:37:21 |
| @yuka:yuka.dev | Hi, please confirm you have received my application | 21:43:38 |
| 13 May 2024 |
| ronef | confirmed | 02:43:12 |
