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30 Apr 2024
@ronef:matrix.orgronef * We've reached an agreement earlier in the day and have since been ensuring that we carefully phrase our intentions of what changes are coming (being vulnerable for a second and speaking for myself) (Also appreciate the callout from a community member where the original version of the message could be read with a different meaning from what I intended.)20:35:00
@noughtypixel:matrix.orgNoughty Pixeldoes the board know this statement has already been leaked?20:58:52
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@nat-418:nat-418.xyznat-418Happy First of May!22:00:06
@paperdigits:matrix.org@paperdigits:matrix.org
In reply to @nat-418:nat-418.xyz
Happy First of May!
Still have... 9 or so hours to go here 🥶
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@Valodim:stratum0.orgValodimFor the record, I'd rather have it right and well thought through, than have it a few hours earlier. It might be a good idea to sleep on it actually, and hopefully noone would blame you for doing that22:08:32
@Valodim:stratum0.orgValodim I for one will still appreciate the intent to get it done today, even if it's the 35th hour of the day. It's almost tradition anyways :) 22:09:23
@ronef:matrix.orgronefI appreciate that, will still work to deliver it today22:09:22
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilFor Ron it's still yesterday :P22:10:42
@Valodim:stratum0.orgValodimMy point was more that sleeping on it might be a good idea, even between finishing and publishing. It's really difficult to keep perspective after staring at a thing for hours on end, and that doesn't apply only for code 😬22:13:31
@janik0:matrix.orgJanik (they/them)
In reply to @Valodim:stratum0.org
My point was more that sleeping on it might be a good idea, even between finishing and publishing. It's really difficult to keep perspective after staring at a thing for hours on end, and that doesn't apply only for code 😬
don't worry we are only 7.5 hours into the call ^^ /hj
22:18:07
@noughtypixel:matrix.orgNoughty Pixelwhy are save-nix-together signatories writing the board statement?23:14:08
@joepie91:pixie.town@joepie91:pixie.town
In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
We have been working tirelessly with trusted community members to bring big changes to the project. I wish we could be more transparent, but we also have to limit the amount of noise in order to get this out in time.
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23:17:12
@kranzes:matrix.orgIlan Joselevich (Kranzes)Janik is also a board observer 23:18:13
@kranzes:matrix.orgIlan Joselevich (Kranzes) I don't believe they get to makes decisions but they can observe from the side 23:18:57
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas ChevalierThis is a good thing, this means we're mending some of the communication breakdown23:20:43
@kranzes:matrix.orgIlan Joselevich (Kranzes)I think its another form for checks and balances between the board and the wider community 23:20:58
@janik0:matrix.orgJanik (they/them)
In reply to @noughtypixel:matrix.org
why are save-nix-together signatories writing the board statement?
I didn't sign the save-nix-together letter?
23:21:52
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinter someone else listed in the doc did, which i assume they're referring to 23:22:23
@kranzes:matrix.orgIlan Joselevich (Kranzes)
In reply to @winter:catgirl.cloud
someone else listed in the doc did, which i assume they're referring to
What is "the doc" in this case?
23:24:03
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinter
In reply to @kranzes:matrix.org
What is "the doc" in this case?
the document was leaked, and i guess people are still looking at it
23:24:37
@kranzes:matrix.orgIlan Joselevich (Kranzes)Interesting, I guess I missed it23:25:08
@kranzes:matrix.orgIlan Joselevich (Kranzes)Either way, remember to not form an opinion about unfinished work23:26:07
1 May 2024
@ronef:matrix.orgronefPost is now shared here - https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-giving-power-to-the-community/4455200:36:36
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth)
In reply to @noughtypixel:matrix.org
why are save-nix-together signatories writing the board statement?
it's because they want a better community, and they don't have a prejudice about how that can be achieved
00:52:45
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth)There's no need for any mutual exclusion at all, and we should respect each other regardless of who signed what or who is contributing where (and I'm sure you do; wasn't trying to suggest that)00:57:04
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilBtw just to be more concrete: It was a google doc that allowed anybody with the link to make suggestions and they could be accepted/rejected by the board :)01:01:38

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