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22 Mar 2025
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco(some of these observations come from me being in the middle of messing with things and adding various orderings to debug things, so I might be getting the details wrong, but the core idea is I think a problem)09:13:41
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco the specific use case I was trying to debug was when / is a tmpfs and /nix is on a partition that needs to grw 09:14:37
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco * the specific use case I was trying to debug was when / is a tmpfs and /nix is on a partition that needs to grow 09:14:39
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccobut I think it would be a problem in a lot more generic scenarios than that09:14:56
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianCan you make a non-nix-specific reproducer?09:15:11
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccouh09:15:28
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoI don't know enough about other distros to make another distro do this :P09:15:43
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI don't understand how you have mounts before repart runs09:16:23
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianYou cant resize a mounted partition no?09:16:31
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccowell, a) yes you can, and b) I don't have mounts anyway. The mount jobs are cancelled before they're started09:16:51
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianRepart should be running before /sysroot is mounted09:16:57
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco the device appears, satisfying some dependencies, and then disappears, which causes job cancellations because of BindsTo=dev-foo.device 09:17:42
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoand then reappears, but then it's too late and damage is done09:18:07
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianCould it be a kernel bug? 09:18:20
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianWhy is the kernel sending uevents on resize09:18:30
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccois it not normal for a device's partitions to be removed and added from udev's perspective when the device is partscanned?09:19:01
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianWell you just said it's possible to resize a partition that is mounted. In that case it doesn't sound like sane behaviour that the underlying device would disappear and appear no09:19:50
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianThat makes 0 sense to me09:20:04
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianAh yeh we use online resize for cloud images etc. I remember now 09:21:28
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco after repart finishes, I see Changed plugged -> dead for each of the partitions in the systemd debug logging, and then immediately after I see Changed dead -> plugged for them 09:23:12
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco

vda3: Processing udev action (SEQNUM=1400, ACTION=remove)

then I get a

vda: Processing udev action (SEQNUM=1401, ACTION=change)

And then I get

vda3: Processing udev action (SEQNUM=1404, ACTION=add)

09:23:57
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco *
vda3: Processing udev action (SEQNUM=1400, ACTION=remove)

then I get a

vda: Processing udev action (SEQNUM=1401, ACTION=change)

And then I get

vda3: Processing udev action (SEQNUM=1404, ACTION=add)
09:24:15
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco I feel like this can't possibly be right, because then imagine what happens with a normal stage 2 repart service. It would repartition, and immediately cancel all mount jobs depending on those partitions, stopping local-fs.target 09:26:43
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianIs Dev/vda3 mounted at this point?09:27:35
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccono09:27:41
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianMaybe you only get these events for unmounted partitions09:27:59
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccowell that would still be the case in stage 209:28:25
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccofor any non-root partitions09:28:28
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianThat would explain why it doesn mess with the root fs. But it would indeed screw things up for anything else in fstab09:28:34
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco I think I'm going to take my eyes off this problem for a bit and get some sleep. Arian Do you have any interest in taking a glance at my test config in the meantime? 09:30:29

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