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10 Mar 2025
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusfor the uefi binary21:12:48
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org emily: btw can you think of a fancy jj command to find the commit where the systemd update commit I want them to test was merged into master? 21:15:24
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgobviously the systemd update was on staging21:15:34
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily master here as a proxy for a channel bump? 21:18:43
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgpretty much21:18:55
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI'm trying to find the masters before and after that round of staging21:19:05
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily roots(commit:: & description(glob:"staging-next *")) is kinda lame, but it works 21:24:12
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere's probably something nicer you can do with the topology21:24:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyif you could access the first-parents (planned feature) it would be easy, but it's a little bit mind-bending without that21:24:48
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgyea, might be impossible if you can't distinguish first-parent21:28:39
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgah darn, the merge's master parent is only mildly cached21:34:35
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI don't suppose we keep an easily parsed list of commits the channel was bumped to, do we?21:35:25
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysure. the Hydra eval list21:47:19
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgended up using this :P https://releases.nixos.org/?prefix=nixos/unstable/21:47:39
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@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgnew development on the issue: The 256.7 version of systemd-boot that originally introduced the 4GB boundary bug successfully boots a 24.11 generation but not a nixos-unstable generation23:39:00
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgwith the same failure as the 257.2 systemd-boot23:39:26
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org so given that the breakage definitely happens between 256.6 and 256.7, just like the 4GB issue, it's certainly related, but probably a little different since it doesn't happen on a 24.11 generation 23:40:34
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhb
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
I don't suppose we keep an easily parsed list of commits the channel was bumped to, do we?
I'm planning on starting such a list again. I'm so tired of it not being easily available
23:56:54
11 Mar 2025
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
so given that the breakage definitely happens between 256.6 and 256.7, just like the 4GB issue, it's certainly related, but probably a little different since it doesn't happen on a 24.11 generation
exciting
01:16:51
* @raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius put one cent on d7ae71b9c187133db028a52cd05145f6c1ef8a50 and one cent on d64193a2a652b15db9cb9ed10c6b77a17ca46cd201:20:06
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org K900: I guess I should ask you if anything changed since 24.11 in how the kernels look to systemd-boot that could screw it up? 02:55:41
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgbecause the same systemd-boot is only broken for kernels from unstable, not from 24.1102:56:17
@k900:0upti.meK900
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
K900: I guess I should ask you if anything changed since 24.11 in how the kernels look to systemd-boot that could screw it up?
Don't think so?
05:41:08
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgyea I didn't think so... I wondered about file size too but the kernel and initrd are both only barely larger in unstable05:41:36
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org I mean certainly there's something different about these that causes the issue, as they are indeed the parameters that triggers the broken boot loader behavior 05:42:13
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgjust can't think of anything05:42:21
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI don't know enough about how PEs work but it might be something as stupid as the virtual addresses used by the kernel sections? (Is that the right terminology for a kernel PE?)05:43:45
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
I don't know enough about how PEs work but it might be something as stupid as the virtual addresses used by the kernel sections? (Is that the right terminology for a kernel PE?)
bingrep might help
11:39:13

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