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7 Mar 2025
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian We should simply have no /etc except for some very exceptional legacy cases 08:11:32
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianAnd avoid it at all cost.08:11:40
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianIt's the same philosophy as hermetic usr but one step further08:11:55
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianIt relies on software being configurable at runtime where to read their config from but this is almost always the case08:13:19
@rvdp:infosec.exchangeRamses 🇵🇸But if you do that, can you easily change the unit dir when switching generations? Looking at the systemctl manpage, I don't immediately see a way to change the value of this flag 10:03:22
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianIt's an environment variable. It gets picked up on systemctl daemon-reexec10:30:21
@rvdp:infosec.exchangeRamses 🇵🇸Ah ok, that sounds like a great idea then10:53:36
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtf Would we keep /etc in the search path still, allowing users to put their own non-nixos units there? 12:24:41
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianYes12:31:40
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtf My current plan is to try appending the unit path on the kernel command line to give myself a path I can control, but I still need to test it. /etc would be cleaner and more standard though 12:37:31
@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de

systemd-tempfiles seams to be struggling to delete some files. Returns a permission error.

14:41:01
@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de

I find it somewhat funny that I've only encountered it by looking at the background.slice status.

14:41:36
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp just digging through my system, I find sooo much broken stuff that I document ~50% of it at best in my local notes…
…of those, maybe another 25% make it into a bugreport
14:57:42
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp latest find… KDE applications whose window just disappears (broken Wayland connection?), but still has an app unit with the process inside etc. 14:59:22
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@arianvp:matrix.orgArian which files? which permission errors 18:56:13
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@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de
In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
which files? which permission errors
I have a rule (defined in home-managee iirc) to regularly clean up my downloads directory and while it does clean up files some(?) dirs persist.
23:54:08
@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de@srestegosaurio:tchncs.deI am not with my computer atm but I swear it should be cleaning up sub dirs too, right?23:54:45
9 Mar 2025
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianSorry this is completely insufficient amount of information to give any kind of help lol08:55:19
@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de

Mb, I was sleepy. What information would be helpful to debug this?

08:59:09
@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de

The rule in question is the following: "e /home/srestegosaurio/net-files 700 srestegosaurio users 7d -".

09:02:45
@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de@srestegosaurio:tchncs.de

It does work for files.

09:03:16
10 Mar 2025
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgLooks like we have a possibly serious systemd-boot bug: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/systemd-boot-failing-to-boot-a-nixos-warbler-system-due-to-an-efi-assertion-failure/6145017:29:53
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org It's probably upstream 17:30:05
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org * It's probably an upstream issue 17:30:10
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.organyone seen this before?17:30:14

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