| 7 Mar 2025 |
 Arian | But what I mean is. When we run tools that support pointing to config through a cli argument we should use that | 08:08:11 |
| Arian | Instead of /etc | 08:08:16 |
| Arian | Run tmpfiles with --definitions ${blah} | 08:08:35 |
| Arian | Run systemd with --units-dir ${blah} | 08:08:50 |
| Arian | Ignore all this silly FHS stuff | 08:09:01 |
| Arian | Pointless waste of time for us | 08:09:21 |
| Arian | Things should be in the nix store except for some really rare exceptions | 08:09:47 |
| Arian | And that approach doesn't require patches | 08:10:55 |
| Arian | We should simply have no /etc except for some very exceptional legacy cases | 08:11:32 |
| Arian | And avoid it at all cost. | 08:11:40 |
| Arian | It's the same philosophy as hermetic usr but one step further | 08:11:55 |
| Arian | It relies on software being configurable at runtime where to read their config from but this is almost always the case | 08:13:19 |
 Ramses 🇵🇸 | But if you do that, can you easily change the unit dir when switching generations? Looking at the systemctl manpage, I don't immediately see a way to change the value of this flag | 10:03:22 |
| Arian | It's an environment variable. It gets picked up on systemctl daemon-reexec | 10:30:21 |
| Ramses 🇵🇸 | Ah ok, that sounds like a great idea then | 10:53:36 |
 @adam:robins.wtf | Would we keep /etc in the search path still, allowing users to put their own non-nixos units there? | 12:24:41 |
| Arian | Yes | 12:31:40 |
| @adam:robins.wtf | My current plan is to try appending the unit path on the kernel command line to give myself a path I can control, but I still need to test it. /etc would be cleaner and more standard though | 12:37:31 |
 @srestegosaurio:tchncs.de | systemd-tempfiles seams to be struggling to delete some files. Returns a permission error.
| 14:41:01 |
| @srestegosaurio:tchncs.de | I find it somewhat funny that I've only encountered it by looking at the background.slice status.
| 14:41:36 |
 eliasp | just digging through my system, I find sooo much broken stuff that I document ~50% of it at best in my local notes…
…of those, maybe another 25% make it into a bugreport | 14:57:42 |
| eliasp | latest find… KDE applications whose window just disappears (broken Wayland connection?), but still has an app unit with the process inside etc. | 14:59:22 |
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| Arian | which files? which permission errors | 18:56:13 |
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| 8 Mar 2025 |
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| @srestegosaurio:tchncs.de | In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
which files? which permission errors I have a rule (defined in home-managee iirc) to regularly clean up my downloads directory and while it does clean up files some(?) dirs persist. | 23:54:08 |
| @srestegosaurio:tchncs.de | I am not with my computer atm but I swear it should be cleaning up sub dirs too, right? | 23:54:45 |
