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6 Mar 2025
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianWhen I fetch something from S3 in the vm is like kbps slow 20:15:42
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianEverything else is fast. How do I even20:15:54
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI love incomprehensible edge cases20:16:18
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianhttps://github.com/aws/aws-cli/issues/729920:16:45
@gdamjan:spodeli.orggdamjan

someone claims

Running sudo sysctl net.inet.tcp.tso=0 in the CI machine appears to have resolved the issue adequately.

20:23:00
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusseems like the 90s again when the acceleration HW stacks were completely fucked20:30:42
@marie:marie.cologne@marie:marie.cologne i have basically the same thing included in my pr for ssh-generator :3 20:40:28
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp
In reply to @eliasp:kde.org
unfortunately, systemctl edit doesn't understand --transient, so this has to be handled manually…
but we might want to rework the patch 0016-systemctl-edit-suggest-systemdctl-edit-runtime-on-sy.patch pointing people towards --runtime
…and simply dropping things into /run/systemd/transient doesn't seem to work either, even if that's the one that should take precedence over /etc/systemd/system and /run/systemd/system… 😩
20:54:04
@gdamjan:spodeli.orggdamjanimho that's for units pid1 stores itself (for units created by systemd-run/dbus), probably doesn't read from there21:58:58
@gdamjan:spodeli.orggdamjanperhaps nixos should put units in /usr instead of /etc21:59:29
@antifuchs:asf.computerantifuchsdo we even have a /usr 😹22:00:40
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossYes22:02:00
@gdamjan:spodeli.orggdamjanIIRC /usr/bin/env is required22:02:28
@rvdp:infosec.exchangeRamses 🇵🇸 It's not a crazy idea to put them in /usr, imho, but we'll have to do considerable work to make that happen. We will need to generalise all the stuff used to set up /etc currently, and we'll lose some atomicity when switching generations 22:25:21
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa RossWe could just install a symlink to a /etc (or /run/current-system) subdirectory in /usr22:26:29
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp gdamjan the thing is, it still evaluates the unit in transient, but apparently doesn't apply all directives... Documentation= works, ExecStart= doesn't
nonetheless, I agree that it would be nice to have them all in /usr instead of /etc, but yeah - a looot of work
23:20:04
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp

but while we're at it - anyone feels like picking up my systemd-localectl-archive-path branch (fix for #267101 and successor of #375062)

I don't have time for it right now and I can't figure out, why my patch shows now effect…

23:22:06
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp

but while we're at it - anyone feels like picking up my systemd-localectl-archive-path branch (fix for #267101 and successor of #375062)?

I don't have time for it right now and I can't figure out, why my patch shows now effect…

23:22:13
@eliasp:kde.orgeliasp

but while we're at it - anyone feels like picking up my systemd-localectl-archive-path branch (fix for #267101 and successor of #375062)?

I don't have time for it right now and I can't figure out, why my patch shows no effect…

23:22:24
7 Mar 2025
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI think the fix here is that we shouldn't put nix generated config in /etc we should put it in /nix/store and extend SYSTEMD_UNIT_PATH07:47:07
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianThat's my take07:47:31
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Ross libeconf has the same weird ordering and is being pushed pretty hard for projects to implement the UAPI Group's Configuration Files Specification, so if we continue avoiding /usr for config files it won't just be systemd we need to patch. 08:04:37
@k900:0upti.meK900Does it mean /usr as in /usr08:05:42
@k900:0upti.meK900Or /usr as in $prefix08:05:48
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianWell systemd's build system already doesn't respect $prefix . We patch that in08:06:11
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianFor e.g. udev and tmpfiles08:06:20
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianThey hardcode /usr in the c code08:06:38
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian:(08:06:39
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianIn a lot of places08:06:42
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian* Well systemd's build already doesn't respect $prefix . We patch that in08:06:59

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