| 4 Mar 2025 |
 Arian | which is not great | 14:07:02 |
 emily | ok I know this is a total digression at this point but given the problems with booting with kexec, has anyone managed to get Linux running in the UEFI boot services environment? like just have it not exit that so you can use Linux to prepare an image to boot in the "normal" UEFI way | 14:07:02 |
 raitobezarius | yes | 14:07:11 |
| raitobezarius | it's called LinuxBoot | 14:07:19 |
| raitobezarius | i mean | 14:07:27 |
| emily | hmm I thought LinuxBoot rather replaced UEFI | 14:07:28 |
| raitobezarius | not exactly ok | 14:07:29 |
 Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | tvix boot but awesome | 14:07:29 |
| raitobezarius | no you're right | 14:07:33 |
| raitobezarius | some of the linuxboot pieces does kexec | 14:07:37 |
| raitobezarius | here's another one | 14:07:41 |
| Arian | LennartOS | 14:07:46 |
| raitobezarius | it's not Linux | 14:07:48 |
| raitobezarius | but | 14:07:48 |
| raitobezarius | https://github.com/u-root/u-root | 14:07:54 |
| raitobezarius | close enough | 14:07:55 |
| raitobezarius | u-root has a UEFI BootServices-only Linux loader | 14:08:09 |
| emily | I guess the real problem with kexec is Linux drivers getting hardware into unusual state though. so the hard part is not running Linux drivers | 14:08:15 |
| emily | you'd need a suite of drivers that use the UEFI boot services protocols I suppose | 14:08:17 |
| Arian |
ok I know this is a total digression at this point
should be the topic of this channel
| 14:08:39 |
| raitobezarius | yeah, I had a plan for this for aarch64 systems | 14:08:26 |
| raitobezarius | there's no OptionROM for classical SAS controllers | 14:08:44 |
| raitobezarius | so I planned to write a Rust UEFI driver off mpt3sas | 14:08:45 |
| emily | (the root of this chain of thought is "run Nix in netboot code" → "nobody wants to port Nix to UEFI" → "just run Linux but do normal UEFI boot instead of kexec somehow?") | 14:09:08 |
| raitobezarius | we have plans for Tvix in UEFI though | 14:09:19 |
| Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | Are the plans in the room with us? | 14:09:39 |
| Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | 🤣 | 14:09:44 |
| raitobezarius | they are in the rooms, my dear Kranzes | 14:09:46 |
| emily | yeah I guess that works :) | 14:09:49 |
| raitobezarius | tvix-boot specifically could be alloc-only instead of std | 14:10:04 |
