| 9 Oct 2024 |
 raitobezarius | or just use UFS | 14:52:20 |
 emily | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
or just use UFS do firmwares support that? | 14:54:12 |
| raitobezarius | they could | 14:54:23 |
| raitobezarius | just need to send a PR to EDK2 | 14:54:28 |
| raitobezarius | actually, i think there's already support of it iirc | 14:54:36 |
| raitobezarius | but it's not a "default" support | 14:54:42 |
| raitobezarius | someone needs to deal with the UEFI forum | 14:54:46 |
 Arian | this is above my pay grade | 14:54:57 |
 ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
someone should figure out a way to make FAT CoW zvols, my dude | 15:08:40 |
| emily | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
zvols, my dude how does that fix UEFI? | 15:11:34 |
| emily | I'm thinking of a way to reuse the on disk format but write to it in a way that is safe | 15:11:49 |
| ElvishJerricco | we just need uefi to include zfs support /s | 15:12:05 |
| emily | like maybe you can figure out how to atomically replace the pointer to the FAT table or something | 15:12:28 |
| emily | you could implement it in FUSE | 15:12:46 |
| ElvishJerricco | More seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised if FAT could be made quite a bit safer with the kenel's new atomic write feature. | 15:12:52 |
| ElvishJerricco | requires hardware support, and I have no idea how common that is | 15:13:20 |
| ElvishJerricco | but it lets you write one block atomically | 15:13:31 |
 aloisw | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
or just use UFS How much better is that compared to FAT? | 15:31:22 |
| raitobezarius | much better; made for durability | 15:32:23 |
| aloisw | Also, which UFS? | 15:58:51 |
| aloisw | Or did you mean UDF? | 16:05:28 |
| emily | oh, that makes more sense | 16:07:13 |
| aloisw | I think to remember someone (maybe even you?) even talking in the past about how it's widely supported due to its usage on optical media anyway. | 16:10:42 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @aloisw:kde.org
Or did you mean UDF? yes UDF | 16:11:24 |
| raitobezarius | i should not write on matrix during meetings | 16:11:34 |
 gdamjan | someone once said iso9660 should be supported as ESP, so perhaps .. :) | 17:56:13 |
| raitobezarius | i said this | 18:14:24 |
| raitobezarius | UDF is just the logical next step if you think ISO9660 should be supported | 18:14:33 |
| raitobezarius | better skip legacy specs | 18:14:38 |
| ElvishJerricco | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
UDF is just the logical next step if you think ISO9660 should be supported why is that? | 19:07:50 |
