| 1 Aug 2025 |
 emily | in our Linux kernel packaging machinery yes | 12:39:37 |
| emily | some of which is in lib.systems | 12:39:39 |
 dramforever | oh | 12:39:44 |
| emily | because someone built something for Lemote in like 2014 or whatever and let it rot | 12:39:57 |
| dramforever | huh, so vmlinuz.efi did happen | 12:39:58 |
| emily | yes, it's good | 12:40:13 |
| emily | part of my goal is to make AArch64 use it by default when you use a UEFI bootloader | 12:40:19 |
| dramforever | no more megabytes of holes in the image now | 12:40:40 |
| emily | right now we use Image which is UEFI stub but uncompressed kernel for compatibility with not-UEFI, because e.g. U-Boot can't decode the UEFI ZBOOT format to decompress a kernel by itself | 12:40:41 |
| emily | so split outputs mean we build the kernel once, pack multiple image formats in different outputs, and you can get either vmlinuz.efi or zImage out based on the output you select, which bootloader modules can do | 12:41:08 |
| emily | so we get compressed kernels and UEFI-by-default without breaking anyone's boot (hopefully (probably)) | 12:41:23 |
| dramforever | noice | 12:41:34 |
| emily | the actual solution is for someone to just implement reading the UEFI ZBOOT header in U-Boot. the actual solution is for everyone to just use UEFI | 12:41:51 |
| emily | but I take what I can get | 12:41:54 |
| emily | (x86 doesn't use it btw) | 12:43:30 |
| dramforever | yeah bzImage will be here forever | 12:43:54 |
| dramforever | ready to ask you to use a bootloader | 12:44:09 |
| emily | the reason I am not just using the actual target names is because .uefi should be bzImage or vmlinuz.efi and .legacy should be bzImage or zImage or etc. | 12:44:26 |
| emily | but that means I have to make decisions about platforms I know little about and it's annoying | 12:44:45 |
| dramforever | i remember there's some nonsense in the loongarch64 make target names | 12:45:11 |
| dramforever | in the most infuriating way possible | 12:45:29 |
| dramforever | or was it just the file name | 12:45:49 |
| emily | they have vmlinux.elf | 12:46:01 |
| emily | which is not vmlinux | 12:46:02 |
| emily | it's irrelevant though since they're vmlinuz.efi all the way, so they're one of the arches that are my friend | 12:46:17 |
| emily | no intention of adding non-UEFI to things we didn't already support it ofr | 12:46:34 |
| emily | * no intention of adding non-UEFI to things we didn't already support it for | 12:46:35 |
| dramforever | oh thank fuck they unfucked it (iiuc) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/426834 | 12:47:12 |
| emily | the Linux "installation scripts" are very silly and pointless | 12:47:44 |
| emily | I am literally replacing them with cp | 12:47:48 |
