| 1 Aug 2025 |
 emily | yeah | 12:32:35 |
| emily | isn't PMON what people use though | 12:32:38 |
| emily | I guess maybe not for the MIPS machines that ran NT 4.0 or whatever | 12:32:46 |
| emily | but are there even MIPS machines used by anyone in the galaxy that are not Lemote at this point | 12:33:00 |
 dramforever | idk, what do you use on mips routers? | 12:33:06 |
| emily | umm good question | 12:33:13 |
| dramforever | well mips routers | 12:33:23 |
| dramforever | that's the nornal use for mips nowadays right | 12:33:48 |
| dramforever | if you're trying to use nixos on a nintendo 64 god help you | 12:34:10 |
| dramforever | * that's the normal use for mips nowadays right | 12:34:25 |
| emily | NixOS kernel packages are pretty useless for those since they need cursed OpenWrt kernels to be fair | 12:34:45 |
| emily | Liminix just drives the kernel build itself | 12:34:52 |
| emily | but yeah I guess I should see what target they use | 12:34:58 |
| dramforever | oh yeah this lemote thing runs freaking mainline linux | 12:35:27 |
| dramforever | at least back when 6.6 | 12:35:51 |
| emily | right which is all I really care about for deciding what targets our linux builds | 12:36:04 |
| dramforever | there's also nothing on this chip but lol | 12:36:21 |
| emily | I am doing split outputs and have to decide what should be the legacy target for random platforms we theoretically supported building a kernel on at some point | 12:36:29 |
| dramforever | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
right which is all I really care about for deciding what targets our linux builds okay so... no you cannot build a generic mips kernel to run on lemote | 12:37:03 |
| dramforever | afaict | 12:37:05 |
| emily | which is like "zImage for ARM, bzImage for x86, god knows for everything else" | 12:37:06 |
| emily | thankfully our bespoke Lemote config already fails to build so I'm removing it | 12:37:25 |
| emily | but you can override the defconfig | 12:37:32 |
| dramforever | so does it really matter what make target our unusable generic mips kernel is? | 12:38:12 |
| dramforever | well at least for riscv it's Image unless the generic compressed kernel has become a thing since last time i checked | 12:38:55 |
| emily | I could just break it but Alyssa would get mad at me. because we do nominally have some kind of MIPS conditionals and stuff in there already | 12:38:59 |
| emily | we use vmlinuz.efi for RISC-V and LoongArch64 | 12:39:19 |
| emily | thankfully | 12:39:21 |
| dramforever | in linux, you mean? | 12:39:23 |
| emily | so there is just no legacy there | 12:39:27 |
